Augustine Choge is making his marathon debut in Chicago -- who is the fastest marathoner who has broken 1:45 in the 800?

When talks over who has the best range in my mind it is Augustine Choge. This will be awesome, hopefully it is Yuki vs Augustine in the last few miles Kebede vs Wanjiru in 2010.

Rui Silva 1:44.91, 2:12:16

Look up Sammy Kibet Langat.

1:43.26 for the 800m

2:10 for the marathon

Joplas wrote:

Look up Sammy Kibet Langat.

1:43.26 for the 800m

2:10 for the marathon

Where did he run 2:10? Fastest I can find for him is 2:13:42.

Interesting question - looking at all the sub 2:12 marathon runners, and all sub 1:46 800 runners from IAAF's records, I didn't find a single person that ran sub 2:12 and sub 1:45. Only 3 showed up that came close, one of which has a hand held 800m time (and was suspended for doping recently):

Willy Rotich (dob 3/23/76): 1:45:00.33 (8/17/02) - 2:09:53 (Dubai 2007)

Benson Seurei (dob 3/27/84): 1:45:00.67 (7/7/12) - 2:11:27 (Barcelona 2018)

Suleiman Simotwo (dob 4/21/80): 1:45:00.5 (handheld, 6/18/05) - 2:08:49 (Frankfurt 2015) * suspended for doping in 2017

I should probably add, their rank on the all time lists were:

Willy Rotich: 405 for 800, 851 for marathon

Benson Seurei: 511 for 800, 1528 for marathon

Suleiman Simotwo: 456 for 800, 526 for marathon

Hardloper wrote:

Rui Silva 1:44.91, 2:12:16

Good spotting, I was going to say Walker who reportedly took part (without paying) in a marathon years back and did a 2:14-17 time.

Subway Surfers wrote:

Hardloper wrote:

Rui Silva 1:44.91, 2:12:16

Good spotting, I was going to say Walker who reportedly took part (without paying) in a marathon years back and did a 2:14-17 time.

I thought the story on John Walker was that he ran the first 22 miles of a marathon at 2:11 pace and dropped out because he felt he got his long run in.

IAAF data analysis wrote:

Willy Rotich (dob 3/23/76): 1:45:00.33 (8/17/02) - 2:09:53 (Dubai 2007)

Benson Seurei (dob 3/27/84): 1:45:00.67 (7/7/12) - 2:11:27 (Barcelona 2018)

Suleiman Simotwo (dob 4/21/80): 1:45:00.5 (handheld, 6/18/05) - 2:08:49 (Frankfurt 2015) * suspended for doping in 2017

Wow, I had no clue that someone has a combo like Simotwo: 1:45.5h + 2:08:49 !!

According to alltime-athletics your first example is not correct.

said88 wrote:

IAAF data analysis wrote:

Willy Rotich (dob 3/23/76): 1:45:00.33 (8/17/02) - 2:09:53 (Dubai 2007)

Benson Seurei (dob 3/27/84): 1:45:00.67 (7/7/12) - 2:11:27 (Barcelona 2018)

Suleiman Simotwo (dob 4/21/80): 1:45:00.5 (handheld, 6/18/05) - 2:08:49 (Frankfurt 2015) * suspended for doping in 2017

Wow, I had no clue that someone has a combo like Simotwo: 1:45.5h + 2:08:49 !!

According to alltime-athletics your first example is not correct.

Yes I haven't heard of any of these people. Screwed up the formatting there accidentally and put in extra zeros - should say 1:45.33:

said88 wrote:

According to alltime-athletics your first example is not correct.

You're right, I think this is example is wrong. Alltime-athletics list has his result under "William Todoo." His full name is William Todoo Rotich, born in 1980. The Dubai results list him as "William Rotich" and the IAAF page conflates him with Willy Rotich born in 1976.

BTW there was another marathoner in Portugal named Rui (Pedro) Silva but I'm 99% sure the Rui Silva I mentioned is the right guy

Hardloper wrote:

said88 wrote:

According to alltime-athletics your first example is not correct.

You're right, I think this is example is wrong. Alltime-athletics list has his result under "William Todoo." His full name is William Todoo Rotich, born in 1980. The Dubai results list him as "William Rotich" and the IAAF page conflates him with Willy Rotich born in 1976.

BTW there was another marathoner in Portugal named Rui (Pedro) Silva but I'm 99% sure the Rui Silva I mentioned is the right guy

Tricky as so many of the names are similar - does sound like it's 2 Rotichs though. There was another name that appeared on both all time athletics lists, with the same bdays:

Geoffrey Rono (dob 4/21/87): 1:45.00 (handheld 5/25/13) - 2:09:29 (berlin 2016)

But I suspect in this case all time athletics is wrong and it's 2 different people (IAAF has Geoffrey Ronoh for the marathon)

hardloper, I was pretty certain that the rui silva of 1500 fame and the rui silva of marathon note were two diff guys? maybe i'm mistaken but I recall threads about this that (to my recollection) clarified they were def diff dudes

not a steepler. wrote:

hardloper, I was pretty certain that the rui silva of 1500 fame and the rui silva of marathon note were two diff guys? maybe i'm mistaken but I recall threads about this that (to my recollection) clarified they were def diff dudes

I did a quick check before I posted. The 2013 Berlin Marathon results show Rui Silva's year of birth as 1977 which lines up with the 1500m runner while the other Rui Pedro Silva was born in 1981, so I think it's the right guy.

not a steepler. wrote:

hardloper, I was pretty certain that the rui silva of 1500 fame and the rui silva of marathon note were two diff guys? maybe i'm mistaken but I recall threads about this that (to my recollection) clarified they were def diff dudes

There are two different portugues Rui Silva', yes. But the world class 1500m guy also has run a very fast Marathon:

They are two different Sammy Langat's (the 1:43.26 man passed away a number of years ago and was coached by Kim McDonald). I trained with him for a number of years in Australia and Stanford - he struggled with 60min long runs :)

JR

JRinaldi wrote:

They are two different Sammy Langat's (the 1:43.26 man passed away a number of years ago and was coached by Kim McDonald). I trained with him for a number of years in Australia and Stanford - he struggled with 60min long runs :)

JR

Any cool stories?

Sand Dunes wrote:

JRinaldi wrote:

They are two different Sammy Langat's (the 1:43.26 man passed away a number of years ago and was coached by Kim McDonald). I trained with him for a number of years in Australia and Stanford - he struggled with 60min long runs :)

JR

Any cool stories?

I’d like to know more about this guy too- never heard of him.

I’ve always liked Choge tho- much like Eliud, he’s been on it for quite a while and at many distances. Recall he broke Mottrams heart when he went sub 13 at CG as a teen? Also a part of successful world XC teams. Really excited for Chicago

I was expecting Bad Wiggins to be posting in here.

This run will be interesting, because right now I think I'd consider Mo Farah as the "Range King." He's run 3:28x2 and a 2:06 marathon. I think that's very hard to argue.

Seems to me a 208 and the sub 145 might be enough to convince me, which is admittedly worth absolutely nothing.