Laurie Henes Interview says Katelyn wouldnt want to tell people she’s sick

Nope. Are you? You guys are talking psychological and emotional isues. I am just pointing out how silly that is.

For a 'fan' it sure doesn't look like you actually follow her career. If you did, you would know that she lost most of her races from freshman year until spring of '22. She rallied anyways.

All runners go through ups and downs. Tuohy will make it through this period fine and come out the other side.

I do get a kick out of the idea that getting emotional about pulling off a miracle team title when she was clearly not at her best is evidence of "emotional issues." Not sure which is worse. Dollar store coaches or dollar store psychologists.

I'm not talking about back then, I am talking about the end of track season this year and what happened yesterday, this has not yet been refuted. And go ahead and disagree with me. I hope someone in her life sees this too and gets her the help that she needs rather than denying that there is any kind of problem.

Hasay also cried after college races in which she didn't run well. It's only a race.

She was so distraught because she knew the score was very close and she thought they lost the team title and she let her team down. Coach Henes was on the course asking all the runners to pass so many other runners in the last K and Katelyn thought she didn’t catch as many as Coach needed her to. She didn’t give a rats a** about the individual title or her own performance beyond getting it done for her team. In the last part of the video, when she knew they won, those were tears of joy.

Against all odds they were trying to win it for Kelsey, who is also one of her best friends. As the team leader Katelyn took the responsibility for the outcome on her own shoulders. That is leadership plain and simple and has absolutely nothing do with this lengthy and very dramatic pyschoanalysis that you have posted above and in fact is the complete opposite of it in every way possible.

And are people really still questioning if she was PHYSICALLY sick? I mean really??? Do people think her coach, one of the most respected in the sport was lying? Katelyn didn’t even get to celebrate with her team and be in the photos with them to share in the moment because she almost passed out and had to go to the medical tent.

There appears to be an underlying assumption that her crying was due to not winning the individual title, but I don't see any reason to believe this is the case. She seemed emotional because she was afraid that her subpar race (due to whatever reason) may have cost the team points and the team title. In that video I see a competitor who cares a lot about her sport, and who has a cathartic release of emotions that were built up surrounding the race, her team's quest for a 3rd title, a teammate's untimely injury, her own untimely sickness, and her last collegiate XC race ever. And hey, maybe girls are more prone to cry. Do you really want someone who's stoic and shows zero emotion?

I do agree that it would be nice to have a post-race interview. I'm hopeful that someone will try to reach out in the coming weeks to do an interview, and that she'd accept.

Regardless of the reason for her apparent devastion (individual or team), I believe it is excessive and not healthy...

Meanwhile, on Earth 2, or other running related social media outside of this LR bubble/hellscape, the video of Tuohy and her coach is very well received such as on the Citius Instagram page where it has 26,000 likes and many nice supportive comments as well. Sorry, Pattern, you appear to be quite an outlier in the real world. Same for the amateur psychologist on here as well.

Sorry to hear this video got you concerned, and you felt this is a necessary lesson you would teach you daughter about. Why don’t you share your life lessons rather than someone else?

Please tell us you were sick and lost a big race with team title in the line. You shook off immediately after crossing the finish line, and ran to the top finisher to congratulate her amazing achievement. What a display of you courage and character. What year did this happen, 1988, I guess?

Athletes lose gracefully all the time in D1 sports and beyond....most do not break down like she did. I am worried about her mental health, and again, I hope she gets the compassionate/empathetic help she needs, rather than it being swept under the rug as a non-issue. This should not be a controversial statement.

How did you do that? What were your thoughts before the race, in the middle, and after the 1988 big race?

That's the devastating bottom line. Generalities overwhelm specifics. The other two simply have greater raw ability. There has been a parade of Tuohy excuses, dating to the outdoor time trial attempt that failed miserably when she weakened late.

For all the upward adjustments in Tuohy's direction, we saw Valby compromised early and then grabbing at her side late. She said she perhaps didn't hydrate properly. Tuohy's biggest fans don't care about that stuff at all. They don't want to have to find 40 seconds instead of the fanciful 30.

Who cares about closers? As I emphasized last week, anybody backing the Alabama runner better be taking a heck of a price. Comebacks work in middle school. The higher you go, speed is more elite and it holds. That's why I didn't know one serious gambler in 24 years in Las Vegas who relied on fruit loop comebacks. Allow the public to get misty eyed in that direction.

Once Tuohy settled, the race was over. There was absolutely zero drama in the individual race the final 4 kilometers. I doubt it would have mattered if fully healthy. Tuohy was prepared to utilize 2022 tactics against a 2023 level of Valby. If she wanted to defeat Valby this year there had to be far greater speed emphasis throughout the offseason. And that type of thing would have benefitted Olympic and pro aspirations also.

CORRECT! Many people here knew in advance that if the wolfpack and/or Tuohy didn't win, there would be no shortage of excuses to follow. It is truly unfortunate because 5th place as an individual (the very best outcome that she could have hoped for which was enough to help the team win) is nothing to be ashamed of. There should not be excuses being made up. She is an exquisite runner no matter how you slice it, even if she isn't quite on the level of the very best.

Your always "profound" fountain of insights. LOL. Pure idiocy as alway. You bat a thousand. Like Chemusto had "greater" raw abililty. That one is hard to live down. You cannot recognize natural talent if it fell on you from orbit.

Btw Valby has seemingly gone out too fast in three consecutive races. Had a similar split the preceding race and was closed on. She has suffered.

Nor am I buying that Valby suddenly transcended to some markedly higher level. People thought that too in 2022 before Tuohy decisively closed down a 15 second lead and overpowered her. On the track she has defeated Valby every single time they have raced so far. I thought Tuohy was tapered perfectly but we did not get a chance to see if Tuohy could duplicate that effort this time out. Those are the breaks.

What is the difference between an objective analysis versus trying hard to find an excuse?

Parker didn't go out too fast and crash in the last K. She finished in 3:10; actually held her pace quite well.

Doris closed on her cuz she had a lot left and finished really fast, not cuz Parker badly slowed.

Parker's performance was absolutely brilliant, and shouldn't be diminished, but yeah, the idea that KT had no shot at beating her is really stupid.

One data point: As brilliant as Parker's run was, Markezich was only 15 seconds back, and lots of others were 30-40 seconds off.

Maatoug, Ramsden, Reiss, Frentheway, Larkin were all ~35-40 seconds back of Parker, and Katelyn has generally been 30-40 seconds faster than all those girls --as she was at Nuttycombe.

If KT's healthy Saturday, it probably would've been very close --like those of us with a healthy brain thought it probably would be.

(Of course this does not apply to the demented idiots responsible for most posts on LR.)