Cronje wrote:
PIERRE-ABROISE BOSSE with a 1:42.53 nation record right behind Amos!!!
We have a new player in the 800!
And a new great white hope!!!
What is it with French people and becoming the new GWH for T&F?
Cronje wrote:
PIERRE-ABROISE BOSSE with a 1:42.53 nation record right behind Amos!!!
We have a new player in the 800!
And a new great white hope!!!
I sincerely hope that Amos is doping. To run that fast as a spastic without chemicals would be very depressing to everyone else.
Amos could have broken 1:42. He ran the entire final turn in lane 2. Bosse looks like he could have run faster too- he had a huge kick left at the end. Look at him grab his head after crossing the line. He knew it too.
MarathonMind wrote:
Amos could have broken 1:42. He ran the entire final turn in lane 2. Bosse looks like he could have run faster too- he had a huge kick left at the end. Look at him grab his head after crossing the line. He knew it too.
my name is whaaa? wrote:
Cronje wrote:
PIERRE-ABROISE BOSSE with a 1:42.53 nation record right behind Amos!!!
We have a new player in the 800!
And a new great white hope!!!
What is it with French people and becoming the new GWH for T&F?
ISBN wrote:
And as well as Bosse ran, he did not have a huge kick left at the end. His last 100m was 13.3, his penultimate 100 round the last curve was 13.2. So he was slowing down in the straight. In fact all the leading protagonists slowed down in the last 100m, Rudisha running 13.9, Amos and Aman both taking 13.4.
So Bosse just slowed down at a slower rate than the others.
What does any of this have to do with Ralph Doubell still holding the Aussie national record from 1968?????????
Mark Hansen wrote:
Is it any wonder wrote:
Mark Hansen wrote:
Is it any wonder wrote:
Didn't Amos win and isn't he younger than Bosse?
Oh wait. He's black and this is Letsrun so we don't care about him.
Amos was already a star, Bosse was relatively unknown. At least nobody thought he was a world beater.
Yes, that must be it. Racism has nothing to do with it. Even thought the original poster made it quite clear that it did.
Oh OP is racist as can be, don't get me wrong. But the reason many people are talking about Bosse now is because he's relatively unknown. At the Olympics a lot of people were talking about Amos.
Yeah, he was half a lane wide of the lane 1 center. He was in lane 2.
Look at the replay. His feet aren't even touching the line. Rushida and Bosse are big guys, there was no room for him in lane 1 as he passed them both and it took him all of the final curve to do so.
Cronje wrote:
Mark Hansen wrote:
Is it any wonder wrote:
Mark Hansen wrote:
Is it any wonder wrote:
Didn't Amos win and isn't he younger than Bosse?
Oh wait. He's black and this is Letsrun so we don't care about him.
Amos was already a star, Bosse was relatively unknown. At least nobody thought he was a world beater.
Yes, that must be it. Racism has nothing to do with it. Even thought the original poster made it quite clear that it did.
Oh OP is racist as can be, don't get me wrong. But the reason many people are talking about Bosse now is because he's relatively unknown. At the Olympics a lot of people were talking about Amos.
I'm not racist. But when we're bombarded with literature about how Africans are more likely to have good genes for running, it's significant when someone goes against those odds. If I'm racist, then I guess the entire Sports Gene book is racist. But more to the point in a year where the 800 is very strong Bosse came out of nowhere to become the #2 guy.
New 800 big gun!!!! wrote:
P.A. Bosse barely edged out by Amos but crushes Rudisha, Aman, and Kaki. French national record and faster than the American one.
I think this race should get him a little more noticed?
ISBN wrote:
No, Amos was wide of the centre in lane 1, but never in lane 2 on the bend. He ran perhaps an extra 2m, but he also benefitted from over 600m of pacing and drafting.
And as well as Bosse ran, he did not have a huge kick left at the end. His last 100m was 13.3, his penultimate 100 round the last curve was 13.2. So he was slowing down in the straight. In fact all the leading protagonists slowed down in the last 100m, Rudisha running 13.9, Amos and Aman both taking 13.4.
So Bosse just slowed down at a slower rate than the others.
MarathonMind wrote:
Yeah, he was half a lane wide of the lane 1 center. He was in lane 2.
Look at the replay. His feet aren't even touching the line. Rushida and Bosse are big guys, there was no room for him in lane 1 as he passed them both and it took him all of the final curve to do so.
ISBN wrote:
No, Amos was wide of the centre in lane 1, but never in lane 2 on the bend. He ran perhaps an extra 2m, but he also benefitted from over 600m of pacing and drafting.
And as well as Bosse ran, he did not have a huge kick left at the end. His last 100m was 13.3, his penultimate 100 round the last curve was 13.2. So he was slowing down in the straight. In fact all the leading protagonists slowed down in the last 100m, Rudisha running 13.9, Amos and Aman both taking 13.4.
So Bosse just slowed down at a slower rate than the others.
ISBN wrote:No, Amos was wide of the centre in lane 1, but never in lane 2 on the bend. He ran perhaps an extra 2m, but he also benefitted from over 600m of pacing and drafting
ventolin^3 wrote:
ISBN wrote:No, Amos was wide of the centre in lane 1, but never in lane 2 on the bend. He ran perhaps an extra 2m, but he also benefitted from over 600m of pacing and drafting
utter drivel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ioc5x1iArd0
he runs 2nd bend wide in lane 1, ~ 2.25m extra
he also runs 3rd bend wide in lane 1, ~ 2.25m extra
he runs last bend very wide & before bend is finished is clearly in lane 2, ~ 3.5m extra
he also gets little worthwhile drafting as running wide so much of it
effectively, little drafting effort of 1'42.45 for 808m
that is a route-1 800 tight in lane 1 of
1'41.43
nijel is in pb shape
Firstly I'm not deanouk.
Secondly I did not denigrate any of them. You clearly can't read or have poor comprehension skills.
I replied to someone who said Bosse had a big kick at the end, pointing out that it isn't a kick if everyone is slowing down in the last 100m.
Try to keep up.
Typical exaggeration from you.
He never touches lane 2 until the last 10m of the final bend, as he moves out wide to take Rudisha.
He would have to run entire last bend completely in lane 2 to run 3.5m extra.
He runs about 2m extra on second bend, less than that on 3rd and just over 2m on last. That's about 6m extra. He also gets plenty of drafting from 250 to 350 and then from 400 to 550m. That's the 250m that most record efforts get. He also had the psychological advantage of having Rudisha pacing him and acting as a target up to 700m.
If he'd been left in the lead at 400 with no Rudisha or Bosse in front of him, he would probably have finished in a slower time.
No. If he wasn't clear of Bosse then he still had Rushida to pass. There was no way- NO WAY- Amos could be anywhere near the curb. He was in lane 2 the entire curve from 600 to 700.
Amos passed Bosse at the 600 mark. WTF race were you watching?
ISBN wrote:
Firstly I'm not deanouk.
Secondly I did not denigrate any of them. You clearly can't read or have poor comprehension skills.
I replied to someone who said Bosse had a big kick at the end, pointing out that it isn't a kick if everyone is slowing down in the last 100m.
Try to keep up.