Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year

High hopes wrote:

He covers a lot of ground, and it's great to hear stories from the time when athletics was a sport with mass publicity interest. A few highlights:

- he thinks Kerr will win gold in Paris (though may be some British bias there).

- says Jakob is too distracted by the 5000 and won't break the 1500/mile WRs until he improves his speed

- talks about his own WRs including going out to celebrate with Said Aouita on the night he broke the 1500 WR. Aouita was 2nd in that race.

- once feigned an injury to get out of running the 800 at the British champs because he wanted to save himself for a 1500 WR attempt.

There's a lot of other stuff in there and he talks about his own coaching as well. Well worth a listen

Link:audioboom.com/posts/8493534-ep-167-ste...

snowflakes wrote:

Too focused on the 5000: Has only run 4 5000’s the last 3 years. His age may be catching up with his logical decline.

snowflakes wrote:

Too focused on the 5000: Has only run 4 5000’s the last 3 years. His age may be catching up with his logical decline.

snowflakes wrote:

Too focused on the 5000: Has only run 4 5000’s the last 3 years. His age may be catching up with his logical decline.

not what he is saying wrote:

snowflakes wrote:

Too focused on the 5000: Has only run 4 5000’s the last 3 years. His age may be catching up with his logical decline.

Not really what is being said here. Jakob's training is for a guy who would be extremely competitive at 5k to half marathon. If Jakob announced that he wants to break the half marathon record then no one would bat an eye probably.
This is of course not an issue with 5k and up, but the point is it comes at a trade-off of top end speed. I don't agree/disagree with Cram's statement though

not what he is saying wrote:

snowflakes wrote:

Too focused on the 5000: Has only run 4 5000’s the last 3 years. His age may be catching up with his logical decline.

Not really what is being said here. Jakob's training is for a guy who would be extremely competitive at 5k to half marathon. If Jakob announced that he wants to break the half marathon record then no one would bat an eye probably.
This is of course not an issue with 5k and up, but the point is it comes at a trade-off of top end speed. I don't agree/disagree with Cram's statement though

Newname wrote:

not what he is saying wrote:

Not really what is being said here. Jakob's training is for a guy who would be extremely competitive at 5k to half marathon. If Jakob announced that he wants to break the half marathon record then no one would bat an eye probably.
This is of course not an issue with 5k and up, but the point is it comes at a trade-off of top end speed. I don't agree/disagree with Cram's statement though

Jakob ran his fastest mile and 2 fastest 1500s last year (3:43 and a pair of 3:27s)

Yorkshire Fell wrote:

Newname wrote:

Jakob ran his fastest mile and 2 fastest 1500s last year (3:43 and a pair of 3:27s)

And has then been injured. That’s going to have an impact.

Yorkshire Fell wrote:

Newname wrote:

Jakob ran his fastest mile and 2 fastest 1500s last year (3:43 and a pair of 3:27s)

And has then been injured. That’s going to have an impact.

objectiveobserver wrote:

Yorkshire Fell wrote:

And has then been injured. That’s going to have an impact.

At least that is what you are hoping for.

Let´s see what happens in the Bowerman Mile next month before writing off the Norwegian.

Newname wrote:

objectiveobserver wrote:

At least that is what you are hoping for.

Let´s see what happens in the Bowerman Mile next month before writing off the Norwegian.

From 2 months ago:

It is not certain that [Kerr] runs any better now than last year at the same time; he did not run two miles then,” Ingebrigtsen, who owns the outdoor 2 mile world best of 7:54.10, told TV2 in Norway. “I would have beaten him in that race, blindfolded … But it’s good that people run better than they have done before.

He does not seem to have had his confidence shaken

not what he is saying wrote:

snowflakes wrote:

Too focused on the 5000: Has only run 4 5000’s the last 3 years. His age may be catching up with his logical decline.

Not really what is being said here. Jakob's training is for a guy who would be extremely competitive at 5k to half marathon. If Jakob announced that he wants to break the half marathon record then no one would bat an eye probably.
This is of course not an issue with 5k and up, but the point is it comes at a trade-off of top end speed. I don't agree/disagree with Cram's statement though

Armstronglivs wrote:

I'll take Cram over any keyboard jockey on Letsrun. His observation about Jakob's issue with speed is exactly on point (and was argued in an earlier thread) but most commenters don't understand what he is saying.

Armstronglivs wrote:

I'll take Cram over any keyboard jockey on Letsrun. His observation about Jakob's issue with speed is exactly on point (and was argued in an earlier thread) but most commenters don't understand what he is saying.

Armstronglivs wrote:

I'll take Cram over any keyboard jockey on Letsrun. His observation about Jakob's issue with speed is exactly on point (and was argued in an earlier thread) but most commenters don't understand what he is saying.

brunner wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

I'll take Cram over any keyboard jockey on Letsrun. His observation about Jakob's issue with speed is exactly on point (and was argued in an earlier thread) but most commenters don't understand what he is saying.

I get that it's Steve Cram and he knows what he's talking about, but it could also be the fact that he simply cannot open in 1:49 because it puts it too high of lactate level for him to run the next 700 meters fast enough to run 3:25.99. Increasing leg speed will not fix this problem unless his LT also improves. It might be he's simply more likely to run WR in the 3k-5k range than 1500. JMO.