I can’t stand those TRP videos. I clicked on it, watched about the 1st 40 seconds or so, and that was it. They’re so annoying.
Those TRP vids always have too much hype.
The guy that does those videos is also over the top with his praise for Steiner. He always gloats about her. I think Steiner is great and she is going to be a great professional but she's just starting out and has a long way to go. Enthusiasm should be tempered somewhat.
I can’t stand those TRP videos. I clicked on it, watched about the 1st 40 seconds or so, and that was it. They’re so annoying.
Those TRP vids always have too much hype.
The guy that does those videos is also over the top with his praise for Steiner. He always gloats about her. I think Steiner is great and she is going to be a great professional but she's just starting out and has a long way to go. Enthusiasm should be tempered somewhat.
This is a bit off topic so I apologize.
When I was watching that Total Running Productions video on the women's 100 at Doha, a video about Abby Steiner had a link on the side of the YouTube page. She deserves the praise but if you want to talk about annoying videos, OMG. What is it with these narrators and their robotic voices? This seems to be a new trend in on line videos. And they're now even AI ChatBots.
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Will be interesting to see how well Norman goes first up now he is focusing on shorter sprints.
That's what I'm looking forward to seeing as well. He should have the speed endurance down pat. I'm interested to see if he runs a measured pace or blows through the first 150M and try to hold on for the remaining 50M.
Cofil was announced for this meet a while ago, but is not on the start lists. (she has also been extremely quiet on social media since January..)
I wonder if the new regulations have something to do with this.
It's a theory, but she competed in a 300 after the regulations were announced, and if she'd been deemed DSD she would have been ineligible for the 400 last year.
Women with DSD could still compete at 400m last year as long as their testosterone levels were below 5 nmol/L.
She could have either taken a daily oral contraceptive pill; or take a monthly injection of a GnrH agonist (or have her testes surgically removed).
Going forwards, she would need to now get her testosterone below 2.5 nmol/L.
This is all conjecture of course, and she did indeed run a 300m on April 1st....the day after the new rules came into effect on May 31st. Which could be a case of bad timing. But we'll soon see I guess.
Very excited for the 3k. As someone said Aregawi could crash it all by requesting a pace too fast, but he could also destroy the field as at Pre last year. Would really love to see Cheruiyot back to top top shape as well.
Curious about Tim's potential on the 3000m. Maybe he's considering moving up.
I could see him beat El Bakkali, and get second behind Girma who I believe is untouchable.
Nuguse is avoiding the battle, but it's wise i think as he's not at that level.
He’s absolutely at the level to be in the race. Maybe not with Girma, Barega or Aregawi at their best but with the second group definitely. And a 5:01 first 2k wouldn’t faze him at all.
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Curious about Tim's potential on the 3000m. Maybe he's considering moving up.
I could see him beat El Bakkali, and get second behind Girma who I believe is untouchable.
Nuguse is avoiding the battle, but it's wise i think as he's not at that level.
He’s absolutely at the level to be in the race. Maybe not with Girma, Barega or Aregawi at their best but with the second group definitely. And a 5:01 first 2k wouldn’t faze him at all.
Doubt we’ll ever see Cheruiyot as a serious 5k runner, but it makes sense for him to extend his range to 3k as he ages and his 800 speed inevitably dips a bit. He’ll need all the strength he can get to compete with Ingebrigtsen and many of the other challengers at 1500 like Katir, Kerr and Nuguse.
And yeah, Nuguse could mix it up with these guys. It’s unlikely he would pull off the W at this point but I’d like him to finish top 5.
5:00 at 2k is fast but it’s not super aggressive, so I think Girma or Aregawi will want to force the issue once the pacer drops so it doesn’t come down to a late kick vs. El Bakkali, Barega or Cheruiyot. I picture Aregawi running 1:57/1:58 from 2k to 2800 with Girma on his heels, with Girma winning in 7:25 high/7:26. Aregawi holds on for 2nd in the third 7:26 of his career or just a tick slower, and 1-2 of the following 3 also break 7:30: El Bakkali, Barega and Cheruiyot.
Maybe I’m unreasonably low on McSweyn based on a couple races in February, but I just don’t expect him to run super fast this early, which is ok.
Cheruiyot of course is the big wildcard who could run 7:27 or go straight to the back of the race and run 7:43.
Cheruiyot does run casual 5ks in Kenya. Low-14 mins if I recall (he finished second in an 800-5,000 heat double at an AK meeting this year) but more workout effort and that’s at 5,000+ feet. I think he can definitely run low 7:30s. I’m lower on Stewy too, getting beaten handily by Kipkirui wasn’t great. Another wild card to me is Barega, Wale and Girma’s teammate dynamic. Barega if he’s fit likes yo-yoing and Girma/him kinda to borrow the “Rounders” phrase maybe they’re not working together, but they certainly aren’t playing against each other. Could see those guys controlling it if Aregawi lets them.
He’s absolutely at the level to be in the race. Maybe not with Girma, Barega or Aregawi at their best but with the second group definitely. And a 5:01 first 2k wouldn’t faze him at all.
Doubt we’ll ever see Cheruiyot as a serious 5k runner, but it makes sense for him to extend his range to 3k as he ages and his 800 speed inevitably dips a bit. He’ll need all the strength he can get to compete with Ingebrigtsen and many of the other challengers at 1500 like Katir, Kerr and Nuguse.
And yeah, Nuguse could mix it up with these guys. It’s unlikely he would pull off the W at this point but I’d like him to finish top 5.
5:00 at 2k is fast but it’s not super aggressive, so I think Girma or Aregawi will want to force the issue once the pacer drops so it doesn’t come down to a late kick vs. El Bakkali, Barega or Cheruiyot. I picture Aregawi running 1:57/1:58 from 2k to 2800 with Girma on his heels, with Girma winning in 7:25 high/7:26. Aregawi holds on for 2nd in the third 7:26 of his career or just a tick slower, and 1-2 of the following 3 also break 7:30: El Bakkali, Barega and Cheruiyot.
Maybe I’m unreasonably low on McSweyn based on a couple races in February, but I just don’t expect him to run super fast this early, which is ok.
Cheruiyot of course is the big wildcard who could run 7:27 or go straight to the back of the race and run 7:43.
It seems a little early to be running 7:25 considering we’re 15 weeks out from Worlds. Maybe it’s different when you’re a 7:23 guy, but, historically, sub 7:30 in May isn’t very common.
I’m personally expecting a slowish winning time (low 7:30s).
It seems a little early to be running 7:25 considering we’re 15 weeks out from Worlds. Maybe it’s different when you’re a 7:23 guy, but, historically, sub 7:30 in May isn’t very common.
I’m personally expecting a slowish winning time (low 7:30s).
Quite possible, but there have been some fast 1500s and 3ks run at this Doha DL (always in early May):
2017 Ronald Kwemoi 7:28.73
2011
Yenew Alamirew 7:27.26
Edwin Soi 7:27.55
Eliud Kipchoge 7:27.66
Augustine Choge 7:28.76
2009
Eliud Kipchoge 7:28.37
2006
Isaac Songok 7:28.98
Augustine Choge 7:29.74
2005
Eliud Kipchoge 7:28.56
Augustine Choge 7:28.78
Benjamin Limo 7:29.60
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2014
Asbel Kiprop 3:29.18
Silas Kiplagat 3:29.70
Ayanleh Souleiman 3:30.16
2012
Silas Kiplagat 3:29.63
Asbel Kiprop 3:29.78
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2014
Hellen Obiri 8:20.68
Mercy Cherono 8:21.14
Faith Kipyegon 8:23.55
Viola Kibiwott 8:24.41
Almaz Ayana 8:24.58
(There’s never been a faster women’s 3k through 4 or 5 women, except in Beijing in 1993 wink wink)
So yeah there’s never been a sub-7:27 in May, but that doesn’t mean we won’t see any fast times.
Kipyegon FTW with Welteji and Freweyni Hailu battling for second. Meshesha has the talent to be up there, but had a rocky worlds and end to the season last spring. Factor in Chebet and Lemlem Hailu and this should be a good race. Whether anyone can mix it up with the East Africans who knows, but Jessica Hull seems fit and up for the task after World XC and a couple good early season races in Australia. Caldwell's PB surely should be rewritten after this meeting, and can Cory McGee break 4?
It seems a little early to be running 7:25 considering we’re 15 weeks out from Worlds. Maybe it’s different when you’re a 7:23 guy, but, historically, sub 7:30 in May isn’t very common.
I’m personally expecting a slowish winning time (low 7:30s).
Quite possible, but there have been some fast 1500s and 3ks run at this Doha DL (always in early May):
2017 Ronald Kwemoi 7:28.73
2011
Yenew Alamirew 7:27.26
Edwin Soi 7:27.55
Eliud Kipchoge 7:27.66
Augustine Choge 7:28.76
2009
Eliud Kipchoge 7:28.37
2006
Isaac Songok 7:28.98
Augustine Choge 7:29.74
2005
Eliud Kipchoge 7:28.56
Augustine Choge 7:28.78
Benjamin Limo 7:29.60
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2014
Asbel Kiprop 3:29.18
Silas Kiplagat 3:29.70
Ayanleh Souleiman 3:30.16
2012
Silas Kiplagat 3:29.63
Asbel Kiprop 3:29.78
-
2014
Hellen Obiri 8:20.68
Mercy Cherono 8:21.14
Faith Kipyegon 8:23.55
Viola Kibiwott 8:24.41
Almaz Ayana 8:24.58
(There’s never been a faster women’s 3k through 4 or 5 women, except in Beijing in 1993 wink wink)
So yeah there’s never been a sub-7:27 in May, but that doesn’t mean we won’t see any fast times.
There has been a faster women's 3k through 4, but 5 not that I'm aware of. Prefontaine 2019 had Hassan 8:18.49, Klosterhalfen 8:20.07, Gidey 8:20.27, Dibaba 8:21.29. Talk about a lightning quick race.
Kipyegon FTW with Welteji and Freweyni Hailu battling for second. Meshesha has the talent to be up there, but had a rocky worlds and end to the season last spring. Factor in Chebet and Lemlem Hailu and this should be a good race. Whether anyone can mix it up with the East Africans who knows, but Jessica Hull seems fit and up for the task after World XC and a couple good early season races in Australia. Caldwell's PB surely should be rewritten after this meeting, and can Cory McGee break 4?
I agree with your top 3, I think: 1. Kipyegon 2. Welteji 3. F. Hailu, but 2/3 could go either way. I absolutely favor Hull over Chebet (who hasn’t run faster than 4:02 since 2019) and L. Hailu, who kind of looked like the next big thing indoors in 2021 but still hasn’t broken 4 and might be better suited to 3k/5k. I don’t expect Cory McGee to break 4 for the first time, I expect more like 4:02-4:04, but it’d be awesome if she did. Birke Haylom is someone to watch for: last year she ran 4:02 in Nairobi and won U20 worlds while only 16.
Edit: Oh and good catch on the 2019 Prefontaine 3k!
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Cheruiyot does run casual 5ks in Kenya. Low-14 mins if I recall (he finished second in an 800-5,000 heat double at an AK meeting this year) but more workout effort and that’s at 5,000+ feet. I think he can definitely run low 7:30s. I’m lower on Stewy too, getting beaten handily by Kipkirui wasn’t great. Another wild card to me is Barega, Wale and Girma’s teammate dynamic. Barega if he’s fit likes yo-yoing and Girma/him kinda to borrow the “Rounders” phrase maybe they’re not working together, but they certainly aren’t playing against each other. Could see those guys controlling it if Aregawi lets them.
