Dibaba says F*CK YOU Qu Yunxia, runs 3:50 WR

Added Perspective wrote:

Posts like this are why I'm with the original poster - if there is something going on at NOP I'd love to see the American drug cheats get what they deserve, precisely because it will shut up the kind of people who add perspective like this... Jenny Simpson is a class act, I'd rather see her hold the AR

Watcer of Race wrote:

I don't want Rowbury to be clean, hope she and everyone else at the NOP is busted soon...

I'm so sick of the hyposcrisy.

Jenny Simpson runs 3:57 and she is a "class act", pure as snow and in a league of her own

Shannon Rowbury runs 3:56 and she must be a doper

Shannon celebrates by throwing up her arms when she is part of a world record DMR team and she has roid rage

Jenny celebrates by throwing up her arms when she wins USAs and she is a class act

Their personal best marks from 800m to 3000m are separated by 1 second max yet one is clean and the other is dirty?

Get real

You people are pathetic, immature and low class.

Take some etiquette classes. You seriously need them.

Oh, and one more thing:

Rowbury has the American Record

Get used to it

Steve Cram on his 3:46.30 WR:

"And when we got to the bell, I remember thinking, 'I am feeling so good here.' I just floated around the last lap." [It was done in 53.16!!]

"There are moments in anyone's sporting career where you almost can do no wrong. Running a world record should be one of the most difficult things you ever do in your life. It should be physically on the edge, demanding, and yet, that night for me in Oslo, it seemed like one of the most simplest and easiest things for me to do, physically, my career, I couldn't be any better."

Thats interesting. I didnt realise women have slower intermediate times. Anyway my calculation were out as I didnt take in to account women are running slower in an absolute sense. The men are giving away 11-13 seconds so around 6-7 % of the 1500m time. That percentage translated to 3.50 gives around 15 seconds per 1500m which is 8.10 or so but if you say the inter times are slower u may be right with your prediction. Remember too she has run 8.16 indoors.

DIDOPER!

[quote]Learn some etiquette wrote:

I'm so sick of the hypocrisy.

Jenny Simpson runs 3:57 and she is a "class act", pure as snow and in a league of her own

Shannon Rowbury runs 3:56 and she must be a doper

Their personal best marks from 800m to 3000m are separated by 1 second max yet one is clean and the other is dirty?

Get real

You people are pathetic, immature and low class.

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You think it's bad here? Go look at the US Anti-Doping Agency "Athlete Test History." Rowbury consistently gets tested more often by the USADA than Simpson. A Lot More Often.

In 2014, Rowbury got tested 8 times by the USADA. Simpson got tested twice. Yet as has been pointed out repeatedly, they have both run basically the same times at every distance except the 5,000, where Rowbury has run significantly faster. So if Rowbury's times prove she's a doper, then so do Simpson's.

julsome wrote:

yah duh jewelie wrote:

Not a surprise considering Simpson was essentially the rabbit for Rowbury the first 1400 meters.

Ok fine, sure but that is always the case with Simpson and Rowbury and Simpson has beaten Rowbury the last I don't know how many times. I also find this race strategy of Rowbury's annoying but that's not the point. I'm wondering if Simpson has run slower down the stretch the last two races and if so, why? It may just be because they are putting in another training block before World's and she isn't as sharp. But I'm still curious as it is uncharacteristic for her to have a weaker last 50 than Rowbury.

Rowbury typcially always has a faster last 100m, but Simpson gaps her by too much going in to the last turn, Simpson burns Rowbury out from the last 700m to the last 200, and Rowbury typically looses a little contact, look at the Diamond League meets from last year

The only exception is Prefontaine Classic where Rowbury essentially led for 1400m (rabbit was in for 800m), and Simpson just sat and kicked on her

So for those that thought Rowbury was wrong for doing it this race, Simpson did the exact same thing at Pre Classic, Rowbury was probably just returning the favor at a different venue

Also to note, in the 1st 200m, Simpson tucked in right behind Rowbury, then Simpson went around her so she actually put herself in that position and with a pace that hot, unless Simpson is slowing it down, there's no use in Rowbury using a whole bunch of extra energy to go around Simpson

LOL. Hopefully the IAAF, WADA and others will say F*CK YOU to Jaden, Dibaba, and all the other cheats who are helped out by political forces whose agenda includes using sports for the purpose of socially conditioning certain peoples in the US, Europe, Canada, Australia etc. So much of what we've seen in track, especially distance running, is artificial over the last 27 - 28 years. Not all, but a lot. And much of it is due to political forces that stretch far beyond sports. Laugh now. You won't be laughing in a few more years.

Political forces?

Social Conditioning?

To steal a line from, I think Gary Coleman, What are you talking about?

Someone or group cheated (I know innocent until proven guilty, and I am hoping at least Genzebe Dibaba is innocent as I am a fan).

But political forces and Social conditioning? who outside of us track fans really cares about who wins medals and how fast so and so can go around in circles?

Even if everyone is clean or if everyone is cheating, someone would go around the circle faster than others and win the medals.

Hi Mama Rowbury! Are you baking biscuits this evening?

bump

It's really fun to come back to this thread 11 months later and be proven correct about Dibaba being a drugged out cheater. It was incredibly obvious if you watched the race. Nonetheless this thread was full of suckers last July.

we don't even need doping tests anymore. the biggest cheaters are obvious. anybody with a little commonsense and good enough vision knows that the leap Farah made from 2011 on is unbelievable; same with Dibaba, and of course everybody knows Makhloufi was doped to the gills the moment after London. I'll trust a few 'eye tests' from letsrun posters more than I will a million and one passed tests by the athletes.

sad fact for our sport

"Social conditioning"?? Let me get this straight... Are you implying that the success of east african runners is a conspiracy by western liberal politicians to promote poor african peoples? As if it were completely beyond the realm of possibilities that another group could be better biologically and culturally predisposed to running than the white man master race? Because that's exactly what it sounds like you're implying, just so you know.

This thread even funnier given recent revelations, look at page two a certain user makes a prophetic point on her coach!

And unfortunately Kenny you are assuming Cram was clean, that unfortunately is looking less and less probable.

Sorry Kanny!

kanny wrote:

Steve Cram on his 3:46.30 WR:

"And when we got to the bell, I remember thinking, 'I am feeling so good here.' I just floated around the last lap." [It was done in 53.16!!]

"There are moments in anyone's sporting career where you almost can do no wrong. Running a world record should be one of the most difficult things you ever do in your life. It should be physically on the edge, demanding, and yet, that night for me in Oslo, it seemed like one of the most simplest and easiest things for me to do, physically, my career, I couldn't be any better."

Arrr a point wrote:

This thread even funnier given recent revelations, look at page two a certain user makes a prophetic point on her coach!

And unfortunately Kenny you are assuming Cram was clean, that unfortunately is looking less and less probable.

I'll bet you any amount that Cram wasn't doping. And his point which kanny repeated is something that lots of experienced runners will understand.

I'll take that bet wrote:

I'll bet you any amount that Cram wasn't doping. And his point which kanny repeated is something that lots of experienced runners will understand.

I'll take that bet -- and spot you Coe.

Ovett was the last clean mile record holder.

Ovett? He was doped to the gills on special juice from Andy Norman.

Sydney Wooderson was the last clean mile world record holder in 1937