Overpronator vs Vapourfly

Great question, I'm also in your boat. Definitely following this thread!

Try the Infinity React if you want a Nike trainer and you overpronate. It has been a good shoe for me so far and I ran for years in Kayanos.

I’ll be trying out some Vaporflys in the near future. I have the same worries to do.

They are very narrow and tall and combined with the soft material the shoe will promote overpronation. They hurt me even though I normally don't overpronate. Then again sticking with them made the problem go away, and many runners with pronation issues are running in them too. So try them out, you can always return them after 30 days when buying from Nike?

They will increase your overpronation for sure. But you could always do one long run in them to get a feel then race in them. Perhaps if you limit your exposure you’ll escape an injury, instead running a PR?

*I am not a podiatrist and any advice is merely for educational and entertainment value*

Vaporfly is much different from Pegasus Turbo. Peg has much more structure and less height.

Your intuition re: height / soft foam exacerbating your overpronation is correct and the lack of stability could be an issue for you.

These things are pronation MACHINES.

You wonder how all the Nike folks have had injuries after they came out?

I love em, but I am a terrible under pronator, so the outside heal wears down like crazy. Love the shoes though

I would try and get your hands on a pair of the new Brooks Hyperion Elite. People have been saying they are very stable and supportive in comparison with the other super shoes. Brooks has a 90 day return policy and you can wear the shoes as much as you want. I’m in the same boat as you I tried the Next% and my ankles were killing me. Hopeful the Brooks work. Excited about the Hyperion Tempo as well which is also inherently stable.

Or you could try these secrect Nike Shoes that have also yet to be released from Nike. Less stock height and probably stable. I think the Peg Turbos are worse than the vapor fly’s/Next%. The zoom x foam with no plate makes it terribly unstable. I got a pair of Peg Turbos last spring. They were awesome, then a a week late I couldn’t walk down stairs or tie my shoes for weeks.

https://imgur.com/a/4vc9XGX

Someone else's feet were doing ankle eversion by themselves after a marathon while walking after the race?

If these things are pronation machines how does Galen Rupp run in them? I mean he literally trains in the Structures due to needing the stability.

Excellent question!

Yo Galen buddy, we all know u read this, care to shed any light on the issue?

Or, even to the masses - surely somebody on here with stability issues owns or has ran in Vapourflys??

Surely!?!?!

I over pronate and usually train in Nike Structures or Saucony Guide. But I’m fine to race in VF, I just save them for race day and maybe one or two workouts before each race.

They do feel really unstable at the ankles during warm up, and I wouldn’t want to do tons of miles in them. But no injury problems using them just to race and they are way faster than big heavy stability trainers.

I run in stability shoes (Zoom Structure and Arahi 3’s) and wearing VF’s around the house and jogging in around the living room had some serious ankle rolling so I sent them back.

Would custom orthotics negate the magic plate inside?

There is no space inside for orthotics.

4% is more stable than the next%. I couldn't run in the next but the 4% i ran a 12 hour race in.

I use(d) orthotics in 4% and next %. But the orthotics can’t be too wide, that’s for sure.

slightly above average middle-aged hobby runner wrote:

I use(d) orthotics in 4% and next %. But the orthotics can’t be too wide, that’s for sure.

We have a winner

I stopped reading at “tradicatory”.