Hocker 48.68 400m split

They didn’t finish the 800 or 5000, did they even run in the 15?

Should be faster for someone who averages 56 per 400 in their 1500

No... 48.6 is perfectly fine for a long-distance specialists. Are you expecting these 12 minute 5k runners to be averaging 45? Doesn't make sense

Friendly reminder, when posting about a meet or an article, can you please assume others don't have any idea what you are talking about it and describe it a little bit and link to the source. What meet are we talking about? What were his splits for all of the races?

I'm so confused. They DNF'd (okay, paced) 3 slow races and then actually raced a 400m relay? Such a weird way to spend a Friday night.

Why is it news if a mid distance runner can run a 48 split?

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I expect better from a 3:32 1500 runner. That was the original deal with him, right? Dominant kick and wins the 5th place medal at the Olympics.

Nick Symmonds could only run a 48, and slowed to 3:35 over 1500, and is among the slowest 400 times of any 1:42/3 800 runner. How can a 3:32 1500 guy only run a 48? Unless he's just slacking. Cole should try harder.

Find out for yourself. You are the “journalist “ after all

Unless first relay leg, high 48.xx 400m is not impressive. High 48.xx 400m isn't impressive for a near elite 1500m man.

A young Kipchoge Keino was capable of f.a.t. 48.xx 400m.

A young Miruts Yifter was capable of f.a.t. 48.xx 400m.

A young Thomas Wessinghage was capable of f.a.t. 48.xx 400m.

O.P., don't p i s s on my head and tell me it's raining. Don't tell me a near elite 1500m runner may be capable of f.a.t. 48.xx 400m if the elevation is between 1000ft to 2000ft., 45% humidity an 72F.

This makes me think Hocker could break every Women's WR from the 100m to the 10000m right now. Wasn't sure about the 100m until this.

I doubt any of those times above are correct, as each of those runners would have been sub-1:45 over the 800 if they were. For example, Ryun was sub-1.45 and far faster than Keino in terms of sprint speed.

48.7 in a relay is 49-low standing start. That's pretty respectable for a 3:32 guy. Hocker is not an 800 guy so shouldn't be compared to one.

No its not. They spy on you. Try duck duck go.

The first leg of a 4 x 400m is short due to the three curve stagger for the three curves run in lanes. Official 4 x 400m splits group the first two splits together and legs three and four get individual replay splits.

A strange argument.

You would have me boxed into a corner if I ever claimed J Ryun to only have 48.xx 400m speed.

Eight-hundred meter skill is a skill acquired. You do know Thomas Wessinghage and Kip Keino have 800m p.b. almost exactly the same as Cole Hocker's and people saw M Yifter sprint 48.xx 400m.

I don't think 800m skill is acquired, so to speak. If a runner doesn't naturally have the speed they won't get it.

Ryun didn't compete over 400 so we don't know what he could have done over that distance. I would think about 48-flat or just under - which fits his best 800 time. Keino never beat 1:46 for the 800 as far as I know - 1:47 maybe. What people claim they "saw" Yifter do is apocryphal, not certified fact. If he could have run 48ish in a relay he would have been the best md runner in the world, not a distance specialist.

It’s almost like all this heavy emphasis on threshold work is taking away from pure speed. Who would have thought…