If Flagstaff is oversaturated, could Laramie (alt. ~7200 feet) be an alternative for high altitude training?

Gordon Gekko wrote:

Kvothe wrote:

Santa Fe - 7200 feet with nearby towns even a little higher.

Population - 83k.

Fairly mild with teens in the winter and 80s in the summer. Has a whole foods. Decent trails and a national forest nearby. Surprised more ppl looking for altitude don't go here.

Because it is frikin expensive.

Not to mention all these old "artsy" people living there.

Santa Fe isn't San Francisco or Boulder, not even close. You can still buy a 3/2 home there for under $200K. Santa Fe has plenty of room for lower classes. Unless you have a fundamental problem with living near brown people, like most of Trump's base electorate.

Ex-D1 P5 wrote:

Santa Fe isn't San Francisco or Boulder, not even close. You can still buy a 3/2 home there for under $200K. Santa Fe has plenty of room for lower classes. Unless you have a fundamental problem with living near brown people, like most of Trump's base electorate.

You are right, there are some house under $300k. But it looks like they have a lot of foreclosures there as well.

And yes it's not San Francisco or Bolder.

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Meant Brian Head ski resort, my bad. Zion's is close but you don't go there to run.

Ex-D1 P5 wrote:

Gordon Gekko wrote:

Because it is frikin expensive.

Not to mention all these old "artsy" people living there.

Santa Fe isn't San Francisco or Boulder, not even close. You can still buy a 3/2 home there for under $200K. Santa Fe has plenty of room for lower classes. Unless you have a fundamental problem with living near brown people, like most of Trump's base electorate.

Houses don't cost as much, yes, but you also don't get paid as much. The economy in New Mexico sucks, it's a poor state and the job market is trash. Unless you're fine working at a retail running store and living in affordable housing, then sure, go for it, live the dream.

I don't like New Mexico either.

It's the dumpiest US state I have seen so far. Well some of the southern states are close seconds and thirds.

New Mexi-no wrote:

Ex-D1 P5 wrote:

Santa Fe isn't San Francisco or Boulder, not even close. You can still buy a 3/2 home there for under $200K. Santa Fe has plenty of room for lower classes. Unless you have a fundamental problem with living near brown people, like most of Trump's base electorate.

Houses don't cost as much, yes, but you also don't get paid as much. The economy in New Mexico sucks, it's a poor state and the job market is trash. Unless you're fine working at a retail running store and living in affordable housing, then sure, go for it, live the dream.

True, but it's still better than Laramie in almost every aspect relevant to this topic.

higheraltitudes wrote:

For all the posters scared of the wind, you've obviously not lived at >= 7000 feet for any good length of time. if you did, you'd know it gets windy at these elevations (even at Flagstaff). There's no free lunch at higher altitudes at these latitudes.

Not true. I have had a free lunch in Laramie. It was pretty good, too.

Boulder bro

Live look at Laramie. Great place to train.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/bncore/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/snowstorm-2001.jpg

Kells wrote:

Live look at Laramie. Great place to train.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/bncore/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/snowstorm-2001.jpg

Looks like that person in the photo is getting a cardio workout AND strength training at the same time. Sounds pretty convenient, and time efficient. Emil Zatopek would approve!?

Old school cool! Soft runners that need everything "Rupp approved" will never amount to anything!

Kells wrote:

Live look at Laramie. Great place to train.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/bncore/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/snowstorm-2001.jpg

Ever heard of snowshoes or cross-country skis? Snow is no excuse for not getting in a good workout

It's a lot better than people make it sound here. The team I was on at UW had three sub 28 guys, two sub-four milers, a Chicago Marathon winner, a Los Angeles marathon winner, a seventh placer in the Olympic marathon, the Norwegian national record holder in the marathon, NCAA steeple champ, NCAA indoor 3 mile champ, four NCAA XC All Americans.

Boulder bro

It is way worse anywhere in New England, New York, Michigan, Minnesota, Iowa, basically anywhere east and north of Kansas City. It is better than anywhere in Texas, Louisiana, Florida, Dixie. The sun shines all year in Laramie, there are mountains and forests within ten miles of town, thousands of miles of dirt roads and trails from the edge of town. If you need pollution and traffic, it is less than two hours from Denver.