Jordan Hasay drops out after going out over 3 hour pace

PoorJordan wrote:

LetsRun.com wrote:

Jordan Hasay was a DNF in Chicago today after recording a 5k split of 22:20 (7:11 pace/mile) which is on pace for 3:08:28.

Very unexpected as pre-race she was talking about the American record and working with Betsy Saina to go out at 70:00 for the half.

I went to the race today and stood at the 2.5ish mile mark. As I had finished seeing many of the elites come by, I started to walk away when I saw Jordan walking by. She seemed to be having a panic attack. She wasn’t injured, she wasn’t tired. There was another slower runner that stopped and comforted her as she kept walking, shaking and crying. I felt really bad. Regardless of your opinions on NOP this must be a hard time for her.

She appears to be crying or in pain in this photo.

PoorJordan wrote:

LetsRun.com wrote:

Jordan Hasay was a DNF in Chicago today after recording a 5k split of 22:20 (7:11 pace/mile) which is on pace for 3:08:28.

Very unexpected as pre-race she was talking about the American record and working with Betsy Saina to go out at 70:00 for the half.

I went to the race today and stood at the 2.5ish mile mark. As I had finished seeing many of the elites come by, I started to walk away when I saw Jordan walking by. She seemed to be having a panic attack. She wasn’t injured, she wasn’t tired. There was another slower runner that stopped and comforted her as she kept walking, shaking and crying. I felt really bad. Regardless of your opinions on NOP this must be a hard time for her.

Hopefully she will be okay, once she gets settled into a new training environment. This has to be extremely stressful if she is clean to be accused of doping because of her association with NOP.

It is not going to be easy to make the Olympic team, as there are 7-8 woman fighting for those 3 spots.

Ackley wrote:

PoorJordan wrote:

I went to the race today and stood at the 2.5ish mile mark. As I had finished seeing many of the elites come by, I started to walk away when I saw Jordan walking by. She seemed to be having a panic attack. She wasn’t injured, she wasn’t tired. There was another slower runner that stopped and comforted her as she kept walking, shaking and crying. I felt really bad. Regardless of your opinions on NOP this must be a hard time for her.

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She appears to be crying or in pain in this photo.

That’s what I was saying. She isn’t in injury pain, as she isn’t limping or grabbing anything, but she was having a panic attack and couldn’t pull it together.

While I don't think it's great she was involved with Salazar, j hope we can all take it easy on her. She's not quite as pathological as Galen and Mo. This clearly has had an effect on her and that's enough of a punishment on its own.

lwood wrote:

Guess I'm an idiot then. #NOP

Yes. Yes you are.

runhills wrote:

I am done following Jordan and Galen.

Ummm, yeah. Sure you are.

PoorJordan wrote:

That’s what I was saying. She isn’t in injury pain, as she isn’t limping or grabbing anything, but she was having a panic attack and couldn’t pull it together.

Appearances can be deceptive:

"Her father, Joe Hasay, said in a text message to Runner’s World that she suffered a hamstring injury at mile two and had to drop out."

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

American women may as well just quit the marathon. None of them will ever get close to sub 2:18.

Maybe because they are actually drug tested?

I hope she’s ok. This is clearly an incredibly difficult time for her. You have to wonder if she reads this trash on LR and elsewhere. If I were her I’d try to block it out, but I don’t know if I could.

Something to think about wrote:

PoorJordan wrote:

That’s what I was saying. She isn’t in injury pain, as she isn’t limping or grabbing anything, but she was having a panic attack and couldn’t pull it together.

Appearances can be deceptive:

"Her father, Joe Hasay, said in a text message to Runner’s World that she suffered a hamstring injury at mile two and had to drop out."

It's also normal to lie about that sort of thing to save face. Don't take everything you read at face value.

I really don't see how you injure your hamstring 2 miles into a marathon.

ScoopedbyTMZ wrote:

What’s the point in this post? I was half expecting to see some useful information in here like LetsRun actually talked to Jordan or someone in her camp and found out what happened. Nope, typical turd LR non-reporting.

The point of the post is to let our thousands of visitors that one of America's star runers was a DNF in Chicago. Do you not think that's newsworthy? We put it up as we wait for official word in Chicago. Obviously, we've put in an interview request for Hasay.

Also, the point of this is to see if anyone else has info. Someone has posted to a good article from RW that has some info.

So if Tom Brady leaves the Super Bowl in the first quarter, you dont think that fact should be reported?

Hahahahahhaha. Go Hasay!!!

The worst race I ever ran, was a 10K,the day before which I had learned I would be having to move out of the house I was renting, because the owners were going to sell it. I had 30 days to find someplace else to live, and arrange to pack and get all my stuff out. That 10K wound up being slower than what I'd run in training. I doubt I cracked 6:30 pace, when normally I was good for 5:30. And my worries were comparatively minor compared to Hasay.

Whether she's clean or not, she's got to be thinking the same thing: her very livlihood is threatened. If she's clean, she may be worried that she'll never attain the same fitness under Salazar, because she genuinely benefitted from him. If (as i suspect) she did benefit from some underhanded techniques from him, she must be fearing detection, or questioning how much of her fitness was due to talent and work, versus illegal activities.

And regardless of whether she's clean or not, she has to be wondering if she's going to be perceived as tainted, and if she'll be able to find new training or coaching elsewhere. And of course, there is the great weight of the Olympics weighing down, as she is surely realizing 2020 is looking ever more doubtful, as is the realization that she's not getting younger, and if not 2020, she's going to be pushing her mid 30s by 2024. Her window of opportunity is closing, quickly.

That's a lot to think about while running the most mentally and physically taxing race you can run (outside of the ultra distances, of course). It's not a good frame of mind.

I feel very sad for her. I remember watching her break through as a high schooler, at the Olympic trials in '04. I heard the crowds chant "Come to Oregon." I remember the promise she presented. Looking back, I wonder if at that very moment she was in fact doomed. She was going to come to Oregon. Going to run for Salazar. Going to join NOP. And what was it all for? I wish she'd never run for Oregon, found some other other, some other coach. I fear her career is going to be one tainted by suspicion by association, her potential ultimately unfulfilled.

That's a terrible shame.

Ackley wrote:

PoorJordan wrote:

I went to the race today and stood at the 2.5ish mile mark. As I had finished seeing many of the elites come by, I started to walk away when I saw Jordan walking by. She seemed to be having a panic attack. She wasn’t injured, she wasn’t tired. There was another slower runner that stopped and comforted her as she kept walking, shaking and crying. I felt really bad. Regardless of your opinions on NOP this must be a hard time for her.

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/jordan-hasay-1570971959.jpg?crop=0.6666666666666666xw:1xh;center,top&resize=980:*

She appears to be crying or in pain in this photo.

Wow. What a cry baby.

Brianruns10 wrote:

I remember watching her break through as a high schooler, at the Olympic trials in '04.

Apologies that should've read Olympic Trials in '08.

don't believe everything you read wrote:

It's also normal to lie about that sort of thing to save face. Don't take everything you read at face value.

Obviously, but it is also normal for people on the internet to be over-confident in their opinions, and confuse speculation for fact.

Not that anyone here would ever do that.

I am curious how much of a verbal beat-down Hasay and Rupp were subject to out there this morning from the crowd. Could that have happened? It may not have affected Rupp but it certainly could have affected Jordan.

She felt a twinge perhaps and it wouldn't resolve itself. She's a professional and not going to jeopardize her build-up for the Olympic Marathon Trials. One would think that she also felt bad to drop out, being one of the marquee runners.

She doesn't owe us any explanation. We should accept whatever she says. There are other, bigger battles to fight for her in the future.

Her demeanor during that pre-race interview was magnificent given all of the negative vibes going around her.

Anyone still doubts Salazar runners were doping? It’s a shame they were not all banned including Farah.

Shame on all the involved Athletics organizations