When are people going to think it's a simple as calories in/calories out?

Joe Jackson wrote:

Free_the_thigh wrote:

Calories in and calories out accounts for people being different. Calories out would vary person by person depending on their metabolism

Exactly. Some people just want to blame something else for their weight issue, rather than admit they eat too much (junk). I have yet to meet an overweight person, myself included, who didn't lose weight when they started eating better and/or getting more exercise. I'll believe that some exist, but it's got to be far from the majority.

All of the fasting, low fat, low/no carb, fad-diet-of-the-year stuff is just finding some arbitrary way to restrict calories. If it works for you, great, but don't deny that it still all comes back to calories-in, calories-out.

I have been on a key-toe diet for nearly two years, and I lost a great deal of weight the first three months - from 220 to 180. I haven't regained any of that lost weight, but I still follow the diet. Mathematically, I eat the same number of calories I did when not on a key-toe diet. (I recorded all food I ate for nearly a year before taking on the diet, and am aware of what I eat now.) I'm pretty sure it's not magic that I lost 40 pounds.

You know that being this ignorant increases the likelihood that you will be fat again?

Same number of calories. And I weigh less eating only certain foods, and not eating other foods. Weird, huh?

Thyroid levels cant create weight gain from water and breathing.... if you were really only eating 1500 calories/day and gaining weight then you were using less than 1500 calories/day even with that exercise. Doesn't sound like the truth.

You talkin' to me?

nopenotreally wrote:

NotTrueThere wrote:

False. People continue to overeat knowing it makes them fat because they lack the willpower.

No, see it's that thinking that's just wrong. It's not about willpower. Some of it perhaps, but certainly not all.

Most people sit on their a55 all day and don't burn enough calories to make balancing calories in and out enjoyable.

Joe Jackson wrote:

Free_the_thigh wrote:

Calories in and calories out accounts for people being different. Calories out would vary person by person depending on their metabolism

Exactly. Some people just want to blame something else for their weight issue, rather than admit they eat too much (junk). I have yet to meet an overweight person, myself included, who didn't lose weight when they started eating better and/or getting more exercise. I'll believe that some exist, but it's got to be far from the majority.

All of the fasting, low fat, low/no carb, fad-diet-of-the-year stuff is just finding some arbitrary way to restrict calories. If it works for you, great, but don't deny that it still all comes back to calories-in, calories-out.

Agreed. Trying to make an honest effort at a comeback. Was 190 at 6 feet tall. Cut out the crap food and focused on fruits and vegetables and now I'm down to 167 in 2 and 1/2 months. Still losing and feeling better. Joe Jackson is correct.

clompy wrote:

Thyroid levels cant create weight gain from water and breathing.... if you were really only eating 1500 calories/day and gaining weight then you were using less than 1500 calories/day even with that exercise. Doesn't sound like the truth.

Lol this, “muh thyroid con-dishun” grand mystery

People can’t seriously be acting like eating 1500 calories of ice cream and Wonder Bread is equivalent to 1500 calories of lean animal protein > almonds > raw vegetables > (minimal) whole grain > (minimal) fruit.

If activity is adequate and caloric intake are constant but you’re still not losing/maintaining weight as desired then eat less trash— either in terms of food selection or reducing calorie intake (so that you get to still eat ice cream like fatty, but end up injured/sick).

You are wrong on this one wrote:

Same number of calories. And I weigh less eating only certain foods, and not eating other foods. Weird, huh?

Well then you must be sh!tting out a lot of what you currently eat rather than digesting it.

nopenotreally wrote:

If this were the case people would just eat less and move more and no one would be fat. It's not that simple. The human body is not a simple machine and every body is different. There's hormones, thermodynamics, genetics, body composition, etc, etc. Such old school thinking is so silly!

Here here! How do people not realize dieting is all about thermodynamics!!! It's so obvious.

Pound of 80/20 burger

1/2 pack of taco seasoning

1 avocado

2 ounces cheddar cheese

15 TBS sour cream

Any idea the calories or numbers or whatever?

3 pds of cancerous growth in your ass from the beef.

When proper, controlled studies are carried out where the volunteers cannot cheat, the science is clear, it is all about energy in and energy out. The claim that all bodies are different does not change the calorific value of food.

FFF wrote:

Calories-in, calories-out is the biggest load of BS there is. Everyone is different.

If you don't understand simple equations like calories in versus calories out, then you're a special kind of stupid.

dfaskdjfalksdjf wrote:

FFF wrote:

Calories-in, calories-out is the biggest load of BS there is. Everyone is different.

If you don't understand simple equations like calories in versus calories out, then you're a special kind of stupid.

All the prisoners at Auschwitz in WWII lost a lot of weight on reduced calories.

dfaskdjfalksdjf wrote:

FFF wrote:

Calories-in, calories-out is the biggest load of BS there is. Everyone is different.

If you don't understand simple equations like calories in versus calories out, then you're a special kind of stupid.

Does a stick of wood have calories? What about motor oil?

nopenotreally wrote:

If this were the case people would just eat less and move more and no one would be fat. It's not that simple. The human body is not a simple machine and every body is different. There's hormones, thermodynamics, genetics, body composition, etc, etc. Such old school thinking is so silly!

For the most part, it is calories in and calories out. So much that when this does not work for your body, it’s an indicator of something being wrong.

Most people in the US eat too much and workout too little.

I don't get calorie counting, it's impossible to know exactly how many calories are in your foods. There's a 20% margin of error for reporting calories on nutrition labels. And it's REALLY impossible to know how many "calories out" because this will vary day by day, hour by hour. So to make a simple equation of calories in/calories out isn't feasible and lacks any kind of accuracy. Our bodies like homeostasis, therefore if you reduce calories in, our bodies naturally try to achieve that homeostasis by reducing calories out. Just my 2 cents.

I think there is a bit of trick at least with cardio, the more you train the less calories you burn at rest, that at most points it probably equals out to less calories per day than without running at all, but once you are trained you have to keep running or you will gain weight from your very low resting metabolic rate. So anyone who ever asks me if they should start up running I never recommend it, unless they want to be fat or a runner for life...

I have found I burn something like 1200 calories per day without running, but I'm also constantly cold when at rest. Plus whatever I burn running is likely much less than most calculators would predict...But there is probably no good way to know any of this for sure, it is just guessing and weighing oneself to judge if you are eating enough to maintain your weight without gaining... I suppose there are some testing to really determine your metabolic rate.

I'm 5'5 and 130 pounds, so not underweight by any stretch.