Now the Pings are moving to Arizona?!

Which family has the most concerning transfers?

Affolder

Cunliffe

Ping

I'd say Cunliffe. I wonder if the younger pole vaulter sister has red flags during recruiting based on the actions of her older siblings.

hart crane wrote:

Which family has the most concerning transfers?

Affolder

Cunliffe

Ping

I'd say Cunliffe. I wonder if the younger pole vaulter sister has red flags during recruiting based on the actions of her older siblings.

Affolders were military and I believe they were moving before their running careers but I don’t know enough about it

Do you understand what the future is? Yes I agree that she is at the top of her game right now.

Here's a vid from early 2017, lauding the 2 Mile performance of a then relatively unknown Katelynne Hart:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5euYK_xiLI

It seems that Hart, as a 9th grader, had just broken the national Freshman girl's record in the 2 Mile with a time of 10:21. The vid's description reads: "Katelynne Hart of Glenbard West, Ill. turned heads this weekend with her 10:21.41 two mile, a US #1 mark this season and a new national freshman class record. The prior ninth grade indoor record was 10:23.46, set back in 1998 by Michelle dela Vina."

So seeing that Lauren Ping, as an 8th grader, just ran a 10:23 at NBNO 2019, it makes me wonder what the national 2 Mile record is for an 8th Grade girl. Does anyone know?

Who cares what the eighth grade record is? This is basically a symptom and part of the problem.

As for the ping girls- i wish them the best. I dont know their parents but they sure seem to be the kind of youth sports parents that make unwise choices for the wrong reasons.

hart crane wrote:

Which family has the most concerning transfers?

Affolder

Cunliffe

Ping

I'd say Cunliffe. I wonder if the younger pole vaulter sister has red flags during recruiting based on the actions of her older siblings.

Irony is that Chloe signed with WSU but then her coach Brad Walker jumped to another program! Check-mate!

I do know that Sydney Masciarelli won the two mile NBNO 2019 as a 10th grader a day after she won the 5,000. In fall

2018 she won Foot Locker Nationals in her first season ever running cross country in High School

She’s the future. Fo Real.

Good Luck to the Pings. All that moving has to be hard socially and academically.

That sucks. Is she the best athlete of the family?

Yes, I've said it time and again, we should eliminate NXN and Foot Locker National Championships.

There should not be a national championship of high school. That's not when we want them to peak!!!

Grace went 10:28 for 2 miles and 16:44 for 5000 as a 7th grader, then 16:25 for 5000 as an 8th grader! As a sophomore she went 4:59 for 1600, 10:47 for 3200 and 17:14 for 5000. Lauren appears to be on the same trajectory. Very strong chance Lauren peaked in 8th grade or will peak as a 9th grader. Nothing wrong with that, of course in the grand scheme of the cosmos.

Quick comparison & a question: wrote:

Here's a vid from early 2017, lauding the 2 Mile performance of a then relatively unknown Katelynne Hart:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5euYK_xiLI

It seems that Hart, as a 9th grader, had just broken the national Freshman girl's record in the 2 Mile with a time of 10:21. The vid's description reads: "Katelynne Hart of Glenbard West, Ill. turned heads this weekend with her 10:21.41 two mile, a US #1 mark this season and a new national freshman class record. The prior ninth grade indoor record was 10:23.46, set back in 1998 by Michelle dela Vina."

So seeing that Lauren Ping, as an 8th grader, just ran a 10:23 at NBNO 2019, it makes me wonder what the national 2 Mile record is for an 8th Grade girl. Does anyone know?

There are kids in California and New Jersey who run races from January to

December. They have three sports: XC, Indoor T&F, and outdoor T&F.

Gee do you think there is ever burnout, injuries, or illnesses? And everyone cries

how unfortunate that these accidents happened to them!

We use talent in America, we do not develop it. That's for both boys and girls.

But keep doing your stupid NXNs, Footlockers, and national track meets in December.

Kickapoo wrote:

There are kids in California and New Jersey who run races from January to

December. They have three sports: XC, Indoor T&F, and outdoor T&F.

Gee do you think there is ever burnout, injuries, or illnesses? And everyone cries

how unfortunate that these accidents happened to them!

We use talent in America, we do not develop it. That's for both boys and girls.

But keep doing your stupid NXNs, Footlockers, and national track meets in December.

There actually aren't that many kids in CA who race that much. Sure there are a few that do "indoor", but it's not a big thing out here. Most of the fast kids don't do "indoor". Great Oak is one of the few high-end programs that does it.

Indoor track at the high school and college level is probably the worst thing for the sport.

Child Protective Services wrote:

These parent have their priorities messed up that they’ve moved their family 3 times in four years based on their kids’ cross country preferences.

They move around like NBA players.

Why do you think moving your family is "messed up"? They obviously aren't moving for running alone. The distance unning scene here is not competitive.

Arizona is a terrible state if you want to be challenged as an elite runner. Deseret Vista is the only team that has ever gone to nationals here and the boys went once, I think the girls went once. There are dozens of programs in more competitive states closer to home they could have moved to. Obviously they moved for non-running reasons and picked the best team in the area to attend. That's good parenting.

No. They keep moving for running. That is the only reason.

Agree to disagree.

I don't know what the family priorities are and I don't know what the parents do or what resources they have available to them. However, it is well known that there are over the top parents in the world of kids sports. The question is are the Ping parents truly part of that group of over the top parents when it comes to sports. My answer is "YES" and here is why.

1) having a professional coach at the youth age

2) moving around the country with kids sports (running) being the main reason

3) starting their own elite running camp for kids

4) travelling across the country as a youth to run in national caliber races constantly (Carlsbad 5k, NXN, footlocker, NB nationals.......)

It is the combination of all of these things that put them over the top for me.

runnER/DR wrote:

Child Protective Services wrote:

These parent have their priorities messed up that they’ve moved their family 3 times in four years based on their kids’ cross country preferences.

They move around like NBA players.

Why do you think moving your family is "messed up"? They obviously aren't moving for running alone. The distance unning scene here is not competitive.

Arizona is a terrible state if you want to be challenged as an elite runner. Deseret Vista is the only team that has ever gone to nationals here and the boys went once, I think the girls went once. There are dozens of programs in more competitive states closer to home they could have moved to. Obviously they moved for non-running reasons and picked the best team in the area to attend. That's good parenting.

If altitude works then why doesn't Flagstaff HS go to nationals almost every year?

Does Desert Vista allow 7th or 8th graders on varsity? The Pings have a brother that will be in 7th grade soon and could maybe crack their varsity line-up in middle school.

Child protective services needs to thoroughly investigate this web site.