Hardloper wrote:
She does not hide wrote:
Humbler wrote:
Her IG post was probably the most humble response I have read. She said it was her hamstring and didn’t work out. I give her a ton of credit for blaming anything or anyone in her post. Much respect for her after giving it a go.
Excuses... she went out way too hard for her current fitness and blew up
just the fact, jack wrote:
Hardloper wrote:
She does not hide wrote:
Humbler wrote:
Her IG post was probably the most humble response I have read. She said it was her hamstring and didn’t work out. I give her a ton of credit for blaming anything or anyone in her post. Much respect for her after giving it a go.
Excuses... she went out way too hard for her current fitness and blew up
and this is based on......what? your expert opinion?
even the 'loper gets it wrote:
just the fact, jack wrote:
Hardloper wrote:
She does not hide wrote:
Humbler wrote:
Her IG post was probably the most humble response I have read. She said it was her hamstring and didn’t work out. I give her a ton of credit for blaming anything or anyone in her post. Much respect for her after giving it a go.
Excuses... she went out way too hard for her current fitness and blew up
and this is based on......what? your expert opinion?
No, because that's what happened.
Realtor Buffaloes wrote:
Take off 75% from your house valuation.
not even a kara hater wrote:
even the 'loper gets it wrote:
just the fact, jack wrote:
Hardloper wrote:
She does not hide wrote:
Humbler wrote:
Her IG post was probably the most humble response I have read. She said it was her hamstring and didn’t work out. I give her a ton of credit for blaming anything or anyone in her post. Much respect for her after giving it a go.
She explained she didn’t run the1:16 all out.
It was clearly Marathon pace practice effort
Excuses... she went out way too hard for her current fitness and blew up
and this is based on......what? your expert opinion?
No, because that's what happened.
Indeed, during the pre-race interview she was talking about running as fast as 2:32 which is nuts considering she ran a 1:16 last month. She didn't go out quite that fast, but close. I'm sure the hamstring problem was real, but it was caused by going out way too fast. That's what happens when you run the first half of a marathon too hard, you start cramping up. I'm not even a Kara hater, if she went out and ran a smart 2:40 or 2:45 I wouldn't have faulted her at all. But she ran it like a complete noob despite that she's 40 and has many years of marathon running experience.
Stoppit Smith wrote:
I would like to openly acknowledge this "She's a snitch" comment. Honestly, like many others, I don't know the depth or dexterity of the methods of training that Kara had specifically with the NOP.
What I do know is that she got out when it seemed too obscure and potentially dangerous.
This new logic against "snitches" seems to be the reason why people do get away with nasty means to an end. Ergo, the strength Ms. Goucher showed while getting out of a frightening program like the Nike Oregon Project was unprecedented.
Let us keep in mind that both Gouchers are athletes and, at one time, both Adam and Kara were highly competitive against the top international athletes. Why the Gouchers are not viewed as heroes is beyond me.
It is true that Kara is not as fast as she was, nor should she have to be. But keep in mind that Mr. Armstrong's drug ring, all of those named in MLB's Mitchell Report, and even the recent Russian doping scandal could have all been ended sooner and smaller had people come out with information that a scandal was starting.
We are so quick to attack the doping of Mr. Viren. The story of Mr. Hellebuyck became huge. Ms. Jones suffered the wrath of a nation.
Why do people become so defensive when it comes to NOP?
When it correlates to attacks on Ms. Goucher, one really must wonder.
HMM
67yyy7 wrote:
I don't really buy the hamstring injury thing, but the reason doesn't really matter. She had a bad day - it happens to the best of us. But when it's the only marathon you've run in several years and you are in the public eye, it gets magnified.
I give her props for getting out there and giving it a go, knowing that she's not as fast as she used to be. That actually takes a good deal of courage.
Ooozrr wrote:
Realtor Buffaloes wrote:
Take off 75% from your house valuation.
You sure you understand the boulder market? Isn’t the median home there over $1million now?
r"é"é" wrote:
Wye wrote:
Running junkie wrote:
Advise to the Gouchers is "time to grow up" and move on with your lives. You don't always get what you want!
Grow up? Don’t they have a kid and ~$2million dollar home in Boulder?
You mean Saladbar's lovechild?
Ummm where wrote:
I am a woman, not a fan of Salazar or the Oregon Project by any means, and I still find Kara’s schtick annoying. I don’t really relate to her story at all, I can’t afford $80 vests (even if they’re spreading feminism or whatever) her crybaby antics don’t strike me as brave. It’s not men who have a problem with strong, successful women on here, as there is plenty of respect for Desi Linden, Shalane Flanagan, Molly Huddle, etc.
DunRunny12 wrote:
The Kara hate is a little strange, but kind of reminiscent of Ryan Hall just before he retired. When the greats come down to human being status simultaneously expressing their own feelings, frustrations and *gasp* opinions, a natural divide tends to take shape. I would say we need to be careful in how we label people as "arrogant," etc., based on a few sound bytes we might see circulating publicly. I've even had disputes with the Gouchers on social media, but would never in my life presume to know them really as people based on those interactions.
Okay, back to Monday, this is gunna suck.
letsnott wrote:
she can run as long as she wants...there is no shelf life on running. So sick of this idea that elites need to hang up the shoes and disappear when they're most fastest days are over. Meanwhile every hobby jogger under the sun can run till their 80 and no one says a darn thing...
gregmacd wrote:
Gotta give Kara a thumb-up for trying. I saw her finish at the 2016 Olympic Trials Marathon. Although she only got fourth, she looked strong and fought to the end. She's not the type that gives up easily. She would not have dropped out if she wasn't injured.
Although she never got a win in a big marathon, she will always be remembered as a great distance runner. I hope her the best in whatever taking her running in a new direction means.
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-kara-goucher-running-in-the-us-olympic-marathon-trials-in-los-angeles-96353765.html
DunRunny12 wrote:
The Kara hate is a little strange, but kind of reminiscent of Ryan Hall just before he retired. When the greats come down to human being status simultaneously expressing their own feelings, frustrations and *gasp* opinions, a natural divide tends to take shape. I would say we need to be careful in how we label people as "arrogant," etc., based on a few sound bytes we might see circulating publicly. I've even had disputes with the Gouchers on social media, but would never in my life presume to know them really as people based on those interactions.
Okay, back to Monday, this is gunna suck.
