As someone who became a fan of running during Ryan Hall's heyday, I couldn't have imagined a much more exciting development for US distance running than an American-born athlete winning the Boston Marathon. Well, it certainly seems inevitable that Galen is going to win Boston this year, but for me the accomplishment will ring hollow and engender little more than a shrug (just as his Chicago victory did).
It's truly unfortunate; I vividly remember skipping class to watch Hall run Boston in 09, 10, and 11, and even though he didn't win, I found his performances to be compelling and inspiring. And I always thought it would be so, so cool if an American-born runner ever somehow managed to win Boston. But for it to be Rupp after all we've learned from the ProPublica and USADA reports ... man, what a bummer.
An intelligent person can't read all the facts in the USADA report and NOT come to the conclusion that Rupp and Salazar have almost certainly violated antidoping rules. More specifically, based on the facts, it's HIGHLY likely that Rupp and Salazar have abused synthetic testosterone for performance gains. (So spare me your cries of "Rupp and Salazar only operate in the gray area" because that's not remotely true.) Consequently, when Galen wins, it'll do nothing to show that CLEAN American-born athletes can compete with the top East Africans in the marathon. At least in my mind.
I hope this post doesn't get deleted. I can't be the only running fan who feels this way.
Is everyone prepared for Rupp to win Boston?
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Meb winning Boston was American enough for me. Rupp winning will only be a small footnote in running history.
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Meb is nothing. A Rupp victory would be tremendous! Truly start cementing him as one of the marathon greats...and as an American!!
As far as clean. If you have more suspicion about Rupp than about every single E. African than you gotta be a clown. If Rupps victory is hollow to you than a Kipchoge victory must be almost invisible? -
joho wrote:
Meb winning Boston was American enough for me. Rupp winning will only be a small footnote in running history.
yeah freaking hate all these people who are like "AMERICAN WINNING BOSTON!!!" and its like bruh meb just did that a handful of years ago -
If Rupp wins Boston to add to Chicago, will he go for the NYC trifecta?
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anacondarunner wrote:
Well, it certainly seems inevitable that Galen is going to win Boston this year
Actually, it's quite evitable. There are faster African runners in the field. One could easily beat Rupp. -
If he is still with the pack with 10k to go, then yes he will be victorious. No one will be able to hang with his 10000m track speed. That is how he trains. He will sit, and the kick the last 10k.
However, didn't Kirui leave him with 10k to go last year?
And Tola is a beast.
I think the pace will be hot intentionally because they know Galen is not designed to run that way. -
anacondarunner wrote:
As someone who became a fan of running during Ryan Hall's heyday, I couldn't have imagined a much more exciting development for US distance running than an American-born athlete winning the Boston Marathon.
Really? I can imagine many far more exciting things. I think you seriously lack imagination.
Also, quit being such a drama queen. To read your post, you’d think Rupp winning a B-level marathon is a Shakespearean tragedy. -
Oh, please wrote:
anacondarunner wrote:
As someone who became a fan of running during Ryan Hall's heyday, I couldn't have imagined a much more exciting development for US distance running than an American-born athlete winning the Boston Marathon.
[i]Really[/u]? I can imagine many far more exciting things. I think you seriously lack imagination.
Also, quit being such a drama queen. To read your post, you’d think Rupp winning a B-level marathon is a Shakespearean tragedy.
I’m concerned that we won’t have any A-level marathons left by 2020, every race Rupp enters will be “B-level” to y’all -
reed wrote:
anacondarunner wrote:
Well, it certainly seems inevitable that Galen is going to win Boston this year
Actually, it's quite evitable. There are faster African runners in the field. One could easily beat Rupp.
it's possible reed will win Boston this year... -
Is the Boston Marathon televised live on ESPN? Anyone know?
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anacondarunner wrote:
As someone who became a fan of running during Ryan Hall's heyday, I couldn't have imagined a much more exciting development for US distance running than an American-born athlete winning the Boston Marathon. Well, it certainly seems inevitable that Galen is going to win Boston this year, but for me the accomplishment will ring hollow and engender little more than a shrug (just as his Chicago victory did).
It's truly unfortunate; I vividly remember skipping class to watch Hall run Boston in 09, 10, and 11, and even though he didn't win, I found his performances to be compelling and inspiring. And I always thought it would be so, so cool if an American-born runner ever somehow managed to win Boston. But for it to be Rupp after all we've learned from the ProPublica and USADA reports ... man, what a bummer.
An intelligent person can't read all the facts in the USADA report and NOT come to the conclusion that Rupp and Salazar have almost certainly violated antidoping rules. More specifically, based on the facts, it's HIGHLY likely that Rupp and Salazar have abused synthetic testosterone for performance gains. (So spare me your cries of "Rupp and Salazar only operate in the gray area" because that's not remotely true.) Consequently, when Galen wins, it'll do nothing to show that CLEAN American-born athletes can compete with the top East Africans in the marathon. At least in my mind.
I hope this post doesn't get deleted. I can't be the only running fan who feels this way.
Count me in the idiot fringe who'd still be excited if Rupp wins. Seriously, he's been under a fairly intense microscope for, what, three or four years now? And he's still running great.
I'm no fool. I don't build up any of these guys into heros. I'm supportive of continued investigations and know I may never have all the facts, but I have developed a real respect for Rupp's tenacity, consistency and ability to perform at his best when things matter most.
I've cried tears of joy, multiple times, watching Meb's victory at Boston (hard not to choke up watching it). I consider Meb 100% as American as Galen. But I do think it's interesting and exciting to see a non-African-born runner mix it up consistently with the world's best.
I'm getting tired of all the Rupp hating, but I can tune it out. I'm looking forward to the next male U.S. marathon world competitor to mix it up, whenever he may come along... -
I just hope his youngest kid is at least awake for this one.
Otherwise, I'll be pulling for the American ladies. Odds are better than ever with Hasay, Flanagan, Huddle, and Linden. Did I forget any other threats? -
is everybody prepared? just what are we to do?
the question should be...
"Is RUPP prepared to win Boston?" -
What're the odds? wrote:
If Rupp wins Boston to add to Chicago, will he go for the NYC trifecta?
Knowing Al-Sal ...you can bet on it. -
subject lines sux wrote:
is everybody prepared? just what are we to do?
the question should be...
"Is RUPP prepared to win Boston?"
Yes. -
What're the odds? wrote:
If Rupp wins Boston to add to Chicago, will he go for the NYC trifecta?
My feeling is yes. I hesitate to say this with that insane 13:01 close, but I think he can challenge Kamworor at the marathon. -
just waiting for the phrase "Rupp Certified" to be brought to the conversation.
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Samuel DeChamplain wrote:
Oh, please wrote:
anacondarunner wrote:
As someone who became a fan of running during Ryan Hall's heyday, I couldn't have imagined a much more exciting development for US distance running than an American-born athlete winning the Boston Marathon.
Really[/u]? I can imagine many far more exciting things. I think you seriously lack imagination.
Also, quit being such a drama queen. To read your post, you’d think Rupp winning a B-level marathon is a Shakespearean tragedy.
I’m concerned that we won’t have any A-level marathons left by 2020, every race Rupp enters will be “B-level” to y’all
Unfortunately, we [i]don’t have any A-level marathons left in the U.S. The world’s best now go to London and Berlin while Americans stay home to collect bigger appearance fees. I don’t blame them, it’s just the way it is. -
What're the odds? wrote:
If Rupp wins Boston to add to Chicago, will he go for the NYC trifecta?
He'd be the first American man to pull it off, right? How could he not go for it?