What was his best event and how would he rate amongst other top runners of his era?
What was his best event and how would he rate amongst other top runners of his era?
From a quick Google search this is what I found:
Personal bests (correct me if I'm wrong)
880 yards 1:49.2
1500m 3:36
Mile 3:52.2
Two miles 8:17.12
5000m 13:15.06
10000m. 29:08.9
Height and weight
6 '0 foot tall
154 ibs
I know he has a book on training.
https://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/athletes/li/marty-liquori-1.html
I never knew his 10k was so slow. He obviously never ran a fast 10k while fit, he undoubtedly was capable of at least 2 minutes faster in the 10,000 when he ran that 13:15.
World Rankings 5000 meters
1978 2nd Liquori
1977 1st Liquori
1975 3rd Liquori,
World Rankings 1500 meters
1975 5th Liquori
1971 1st Liquori
1970 7th Liquori
1969 1st Liquori
1978 AAU 5000 1st Liquori,
1978 AAU 10000 1st Virgin, 5th Liquori
1977 AAU 5000 1st Liquori,
1976 AAU 5000 1st Buerkle , 2nd Liquori
1975 AAU 5000 1st Liquori, 2nd Buerkle,
1974 AAU 5000 1st Buerkle, 5th Liquori
1973 AAU Mile 1st Hilton, 2nd Liquori
1971 AAU Mile 1st Liquori
1970 AAU Mile 1st Howell Michael, 3rd Liquori,
1969 AAU Mile 1st Liquori
sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdf wrote:
I never knew his 10k was so slow. He obviously never ran a fast 10k while fit, he undoubtedly was capable of at least 2 minutes faster in the 10,000 when he ran that 13:15.
I agree, I don't know much about him. However, his 13:15 indicates that he could have easily have gone in the 27 min range for the 10k. It could be that his training was geared more towards the mile?
Does anyone have any info on his training?
Broke 4 minute mile in high school, made the 1968 Olympic 1500m final. Best mile/1500m Year was 1971 I believe, won the Dream Mile over Ryun.
Interesting (unfortunate) that all those world rankings fall outside of Olympic Years .
What happened in 72/76?
What happened in 72 and 76 were injuries. 1972 was foot, 1976 hamstring.
Quote from Marty about whether he was better suited to the 1500/mile or 5000:
In fact, he was already training more like a 5,000 runner, clocking an average 100 miles a week. Later in 2006, he admitted, “I probably shouldn’t have been running the Mile. I was running the wrong event for most of my career. I was really more geared to the 5,000 because of the amount of long distance that I did run.” (Bob Kopac, “Chat: Marty Liquori,” Runner’s World, Sept. 14, 2006) When asked if he had ever over-trained, he answered with a laugh, “All the time. All the time.”
5000m slightly ahead of the mile. 1977 & 1978 he was really good over 5000m.
Thanks, I always wondered about Liquori. Growing up he seemed like he announced so many meets and races on TV. The other broad casters and him would always talk about how fast he was. I guess he really was that fast and just had terrible luck.
This race was a big deal in 1971. Huge build-up in the press Ryun versus Liquori. The finish made the cover of SI.
sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdf wrote:
I never knew his 10k was so slow. He obviously never ran a fast 10k while fit, he undoubtedly was capable of at least 2 minutes faster in the 10,000 when he ran that 13:15.
Or not. He seemed to be maxed out right at 5000m.
Liquori was old before his time through either overtraining as a youth or just genetically like Teg.
In '76 he was told he was older and brittle and it seems he believed it.
I had always thought of him as a miler. That’s what he raced most often. He had a few dust ups with Ryun.
Liquori was basically version 1 of Jim Spivey. Spivey was never goin g to run a great 10 either.
JRinaldi wrote:
Interesting (unfortunate) that all those world rankings fall outside of Olympic Years .
What happened in 72/76?
He was an Olympic finalist in 1968 at 17yo, the youngest ever to do that.
malmo wrote:
JRinaldi wrote:
Interesting (unfortunate) that all those world rankings fall outside of Olympic Years .
What happened in 72/76?
He was an Olympic finalist in 1968 at 17yo, the youngest ever to do that.
18 almost 19, no?
Lopes had the key wrote:
sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdf wrote:
I never knew his 10k was so slow. He obviously never ran a fast 10k while fit, he undoubtedly was capable of at least 2 minutes faster in the 10,000 when he ran that 13:15.
Or not. He seemed to be maxed out right at 5000m.
Liquori was old before his time through either overtraining as a youth or just genetically like Teg.
In '76 he was told he was older and brittle and it seems he believed it.
Maybe. Liquori was a world class runner for at least ten years. That's a pretty good stretch.
BMFC wrote:
Lopes had the key wrote:
Or not. He seemed to be maxed out right at 5000m.
Liquori was old before his time through either overtraining as a youth or just genetically like Teg.
In '76 he was told he was older and brittle and it seems he believed it.
Maybe. Liquori was a world class runner for at least ten years. That's a pretty good stretch.
Compared to what could have been, not really. He almost certainly is a classic case of burnout before full potential was realized.
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