What's my ceiling?

Good race! Still targeting a spring half marathon and fall marathon?

Allen1959 wrote:

Good race! Still targeting a spring half marathon and fall marathon?

Yes. Cinco de Mayo half and Portland marathon (October, I think). I also have a 30k in August

I'm training for the half at 6:15 pace. I wanted to use this race to see if I was in the shape that I think I'm in. I am. I think 6:15 is a attainable goal with almost 2 months of half specific training

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http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=8186199

Well, race is over. I have mixed feelings about my time and execution. At the time, I felt like I ran a pretty smart race. The race was advertised as "flat and fast.". I mean, I guess it wasnt up a mountain or anything, but flat and fast is a bit of a stretch. According to my Garmin, it was 8 hills. The longest being 200' over a mile and a half.

6:18

6:08

6:15

6:31 (uphill)

6:03 (down hill)

6:04 (down hill)

6:21

6:14

6:49 (up hill)

6:09 (down hill)

6:25

6:17

6:31 (short steep hill absolutely killed me and gave me the worst side ache I've ever had)

Final .1 6:32 pace

Finish time 1:22:45, 6:19 pace

The seconds mile probably screwed me up a lot. It had an uphill that felt easy being the beginning of the race and then I let myself get going too fast on the down hill.

There were 4 guys under 1:21 and then me. Definite solo effort. Per letsrun code, I immediately gave my finishers medal to my daughter and I did not collect my age group award.

After the race I saw Evan Jager in the crowd and I talked to him and got a picture with him.

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Just a random update.

I just had my first 60mpw week (63 actually.) That included my first 20 mile run and and a 15 mile run with a vo2max workout in the middle of it. I plan to go back down to 55 miles for next week. Ive loosely been following a jack daniels marathon plan.

My 30k is on august 12th. Im also doing some rust buster races. A mile on the track on july 25th and a 5k on july 30th.

Any advicd for what my running schedule should look like for the next month?

I enjoyed reading this thread. I never broke 10:00 for 2 miles but my half marathon PR is 1:14:XX and full marathon PR is 2:37:XX. My mileage was very high though. So you should be able to go faster than that I'd guess; I wasn't too surprised you ran that 29 minute 8K, seems like you're on track.

No advice, stay healthy and keep building.

sdafdfsd wrote:

I enjoyed reading this thread. I never broke 10:00 for 2 miles but my half marathon PR is 1:14:XX and full marathon PR is 2:37:XX. My mileage was very high though. So you should be able to go faster than that I'd guess; I wasn't too surprised you ran that 29 minute 8K, seems like you're on track.

No advice, stay healthy and keep building.

Glad to see someone is reading this, i didnt see your reply until i came to post an update. I intend to keep updating, at the very minimum to at least keep a log.

I took my daughter to an open track meet yesterday and i ran the mile. I was hoping for under 5 and i ran 5:00.6. I cant help but be a little disappointed. Im sure i could have run 1 second faster had i know how close id be. Mainly though, it was to gauge my fitness and im right where i thought id be. It was 90 degrees yesterday and i sat around for 3 hours in the heat before my race, plus ran 2 relays (100 meters all out and 200m at 80% effort). It was probably down to 80 by the time i ran, but i was definitely feeling the heat. 1 guy was 10 or 15 seconds ahead, no idea who was behind me. I think my splits were around perfectly even. I just slowed down a hair on the last lap

Next up is the bowerman 5k Saturday evening. It will be hot again, but at least its in the shade and competition all around

17:04 for the bowerman 5k. I was hoping id be able to sneak under 17 but ill take it. Im sure you guys were all under 15 within a year of running but 17:04 seems like pretty good progression to me.

2 weeks until the race ive really been training for. 30k on aigust 12th

Your ceiling is the roof.

I won the 30k. 1:59:10. 6:21 pace. One other person said he wanted to run about the same time, and we ran together for 4 miles before he died. I think he ended up running about 7:00 pace. Other than that, it was solo.

Jimmy21 wrote:

I won the 30k. One other person said he wanted to run about the same time, and we ran together for 4 miles before he died. .

Well done, Jimmy but you sound like a bit of a dick. Did you at least attempt CPR?

As a 32 year old who is trying to get back into it, I've enjoyed reading about your progress. Keep up the good work!

Awesome man, let us know how you fare at PDX in October. That is, if they get the permits and the city actually allows the race to happen....

Based on your times sub-3 is definitely achievable, I'd say closer to 2:50 actually..

36:19 for the 10k. Same race that got me back in to running a year ago (that i ran 40:40). Again this is a super hilly course. I also didnt really taper for it.

Splits:

6:00 154' ascent 0' descent

5:37 32' ascent 154' descent

6:07 98' ascent 22' descent

5:43 29' ascent 111' descent

6:23 137' ascent 32' descent

5:28 22' ascent 144' descent

1:00 (5:00 pace) flat on the track

hahariiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight wrote:

Based on your times sub-3 is definitely achievable, I'd say closer to 2:50 actually..

Id like some opinions on this. The best indicators i have are 1:59:10 for 30k (6:21 pace) and 17:04 for 5k. The 30k felt prettt easy up until a large hill 15 miles in (160 feet ascent). Ill also have 2 more months of solid marathon training since then and im still getting faster all the time. i was thinking to aim for 6:35 pace. I dont see how that could be TOO far off. Any opinions?

Based on your 30K time McMillan calculator says 2:51:39 for the marathon.

If you use your 5K time from Bowerman it says 2:46:18. I'd say that a sub 2:50 is realistic if everything clicks.

nikeman wrote:

Based on your 30K time McMillan calculator says 2:51:39 for the marathon.

If you use your 5K time from Bowerman it says 2:46:18. I'd say that a sub 2:50 is realistic if everything clicks.

My times get slower as the race gets longer. I figured id be slower than my 30k predictor but not as bad as it could be because i will have had a few more months of training. Thats where i landed on the 2:52-2:53 estimation

The race went well. I was trying to be conservative the first half. I thought i was, but looking at my splits, they werent THAT conservative. The half timer said i went through in 1:26:35. I was dumb and started picking up the pace at about 19 miles. At that point, it felt like im almost there but in reality there were 7 miles to go. My fears came true and it took everything i had to continue running. I felt like i was barely moving but luckily my splits werent THAT bad, 6:40 and 6:44. Luckily the race ended when it did because I had nothing left. what was supposed to my finishing kick was 6:55 pace. I was immediately carted off to medical. Nothing was really wrong with me other than I left everything I had on the course. I dont think that starting to push too early really effected my time very much. It just effected how I felt after. I was shooting for 2:52 and i finished at 2:51:42. Im thrilled with that time. Overall, i was 16th place.

The worst part was getting released from medical and feeling absolutely dead and I couldnt find my family. There was no bag check (for safety reasons), so im walking around in a singlet and 2" shorts and a space blanket for like 20 minutes in complete chaos. I finally borrowed a strangers phone to call them and find them.

Splits:

6:33

6:31

6:31

6:35

6:45 (uphill)

6:38

6:32

6:49 (uphill)

6:34

6:30

6:24

6:27

6:23

6:21

2:23

6:39

6:11 (downhill)

6:18

6:33

6:17

6:40

6:44

6:55 pace last .2

According to my phone, my average was 6:29 and ran 26.4 miles. According to the race, I averaged 6:34 and i went 1:26:35/1:25:07. I think the negative split was mainly because it was out and back and the midpoint had pretty good elevation gain. So uphill there, downhill back.

Awesome man - congrats!! Pretty impressive. How was the new course? As boring as it looks? It does look quite a bit faster than the old course tho - with the St John's climb now at mile 8 as opposed to mile 17, then mile 17 all downhill - so I guess there's that...

Hahariiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight wrote:

Awesome man - congrats!! Pretty impressive. How was the new course? As boring as it looks? It does look quite a bit faster than the old course tho - with the St John's climb now at mile 8 as opposed to mile 17, then mile 17 all downhill - so I guess there's that...

I suppose it was pretty boring but i dont really care. A boring course might bother some people, but not me. Im there to race, not sightsee. Id rather it be flat and fast than scenic and hilly. The were a bunch of bands but honestly, they kind of annoyed me. SOOO fricken loud. Another thing that was annying was the merging back with the half marathoners. Nothing is more fun than trying to navigate through 4 hour half marathoners that are walking 6 wide. You would think that they would direct them to leave room for the runners. I think i only stiff armed 2 of them