Explain Dibaba's post race energy to me...

Set a WR then see how you feel.

Felt great after a PR wrote:

Set a WR then see how you feel.

excellent reply

the wait begins

I was a relatively successful 1500 runner and I can tell you some days you just have it. My PR, a second faster than Dibaba's, I left it all on the track but felt good as I crossed the finish line. Other races, I was spent at the end. Some days it just all comes together. I am not saying she is clean or not but I wouldn't make your judgement based off of how she is post-race.

Don't Judge, I guess I can see what you're saying. I guess I just really doubt her being clean.

It's sad that I am doubting, though.

Have you never run a big PR? Those races almost always feel the easiest. The hardest races are the ones where you struggle to hit your old marks. I can't remember a PR where I didn't kick myself after thinking "I could have gone faster".

Did you see Abdi after the 10K in 2008? Explain that.

Yeah I remember giving my everything during 800s in highschool, feeling 100% destroyed and dead in the final 150 meters, then 3 seconds after crossing the line not feeling exhausted at all. I'd feel fine and stand up straight wondering where the pain went.

Her post race energy aside, this girl is better than Meseret Defar and Tirunesh Dibaba.

It's taken her a bit longer to be on top but she is marvellous.

I hope she retains the form up to Beijing just to see how she does.

I also hope she doubles. Why not?

She will get the 5k world record and destroy ayana.

Run Much? wrote:

Have you never run a big PR? Those races almost always feel the easiest. The hardest races are the ones where you struggle to hit your old marks. I can't remember a PR where I didn't kick myself after thinking "I could have gone faster".

Exactly this. Plus it's only 1500m, less than four minutes of running.

I like to move it move it wrote:

Don't Judge, I guess I can see what you're saying. I guess I just really doubt her being clean.

It's sad that I am doubting, though.

You can thank the Brojos' drug promotions for that.

The oldest sister Ejegayehu Olympic silver medal, then came Tirunesh 5000 world record holder many gold medals now Genzabe And the best part is she has 2 younger sisters, more to come.

This HAS to be the greatest sisters in distance running history.

She will break the 5,000m and may be even the 10,000m. I would say she will retire as the greatest runner of all time.

Also the doping allegations need to stop. When is the last time an Ethiopian based runner ever been caught for doping? I don't recall any to be honest. Doping is not in the Ethiopian culture, even if one decides to dope the country lacks the infrastructure to aid such athletes.

Genzebe comes from a region in Ethiopia called Oromia that has birthed some of the greatest athletes of all time like Kenenisa, Halie, Tirunesh, Abebe Bikila (double Olympic marathon champ) and so on. I'm convinced that people from that region are genetically superior in distance running than the rest of us.

obvious .....

would you feel tired if could garantee when

and how much of peak at before race.

if had a

super duper turbo charged nervous system

dont think would be feeling remotely tired

and has the endurance to keep out of to

much breath.

if the chinese had this peptide do you think

they would of shuffled around track.

previous record all about endurance

this all about speed and nessary enduranc

why womens distance records different than mens ,speed never fully maximised

as they are women ,lack strength power.

imagine how fast hicham would of gone

with this stuff , 3.24 .

saucy05 wrote:

She will break the 5,000m and may be even the 10,000m. I would say she will retire as the greatest runner of all time.

Also the doping allegations need to stop. When is the last time an Ethiopian based runner ever been caught for doping? I don't recall any to be honest. Doping is not in the Ethiopian culture, even if one decides to dope the country lacks the infrastructure to aid such athletes.

Genzebe comes from a region in Ethiopia called Oromia that has birthed some of the greatest athletes of all time like Kenenisa, Halie, Tirunesh, Abebe Bikila (double Olympic marathon champ) and so on. I'm convinced that people from that region are genetically superior in distance running than the rest of us.

I think Gemechu in 09 for EPO. Or did you mean that rhetorically?

Frankly, I'm surprised that anyone believes her times are legitimate. Especially given the number of other spectacularly fast times this summer.

1. It's all of a sudden

2. It's from mature athletes who were not at this level or near it before

3. There's no countervailing explanation - at least the Chinese went to the trouble of constructing a narrative of super high mileage and turtle blood. And back in the nineties we were told that the Africans had never pursued the sport in such great numbers and with such good coaching.

4. She did not look particularly stretched by this performance. It looked to me that she might have run 2 or 3 seconds faster if pushed and if better paced. Given that, she's within shouting distance of breaking 4 minutes for a mile. Let that sink in for a minute.

5. Think about the other dopers whose PRs she just destroyed.

I think the reason that many of us are calling these performances into question is that we've been burned before. Lots of times. As exciting as it is to see world records broken, it's heartbreaking to learn that the record breaker was cheating.

Is Dibaba? Probably. I think the reaction of the other women after the race was kind of telling. Nobody seemed all that happy for her.

Will she get caught. Probably not. That doesn't mean we should all just be quiet about what we suspect, though.

saucy05 wrote:

I think the reaction of the other women after the race was kind of telling. Nobody seemed all that happy for her.

That's because, for the most part, women are petty and jealous. Men do not have such character flaws, which is why you saw most of them congratulating Kiprop.

Link wrote:

Frankly, I'm surprised that anyone believes her times are legitimate. Especially given the number of other spectacularly fast times this summer.

1. It's all of a sudden

2. It's from mature athletes who were not at this level or near it before

.

I stopped reading your BS post here. She's been breaking WRs for some time. Indoors, sure but her indoor times suggested what she could be capable of outdoors. She's been near that level for some time and is improving which is not at all suspiscious considering she's just 24. It's not all of a sudden and while it is a surprise obviously, it's hardly a shock for anyone who's been following her or is not an idiot like you.

Just another LRCer wrote:

saucy05 wrote:

I think the reaction of the other women after the race was kind of telling. Nobody seemed all that happy for her.

That's because, for the most part, women are petty and jealous. Men do not have such character flaws, which is why you saw most of them congratulating Kiprop.

There were athletes congratulating Genzebe Dibaba after her World Record, did you not see Channel Price hug and pick her up after the race? Even some non distance athletes like hurdler Sharika Nelvis.

Look at everyone who wins, 75% of then have that energy. Not just Dibabs

Interesting that she puts the brakes on after crossing the line rather than collapsing across the line.

1) She could have kept going at the same speed for another 100m.

2) She runs 3:49 the next time that she runs a similar race.