Bernie sanders wants free college for everyone

Poor SOBs wrote:

bamboozled by the propaganda of the machine that you argue their side for them as they pee all over you.

So intellectually complacent thst you're content to substitute mindless phrases like "propaganda of the machine" for a clear explanation of exactly why he's wrong, who "they" are, or how "they" misled him.

liberals go away wrote:

So intellectually complacent thst you're content to substitute mindless phrases like "propaganda of the machine" for a clear explanation of exactly why he's wrong, who "they" are, or how "they" misled him.

Huh? I am sure that makes "sense" to you but wtf? You really don't know the meaning of propaganda? Or what the machine is in this context? Or who "they" are when discussing the workings of the government?

Do you really think your ignorance wins the day?

liberals go away wrote:

Poor SOBs wrote:

bamboozled by the propaganda of the machine that you argue their side for them as they pee all over you.

So intellectually complacent thst you're content to substitute mindless phrases like "propaganda of the machine" for a clear explanation of exactly why he's wrong, who "they" are, or how "they" misled him.

That is a pretty dumb "observation" brah.

Huh2 wrote:

Huh? I am sure that makes "sense" to you but wtf? You really don't know the meaning of propaganda? Or what the machine is in this context? Or who "they" are when discussing the workings of the government?

Do you really think your ignorance wins the day?

I assume by "propoganda of the machine" you mean that rich people and corporations are somehow conspiring to use their wealth to inculcate us with pro-capitalist philosophy through government, the media, education, blah blah blah. I'm calling you out on your bullshit. The people telling the masses of Americans what to think are anticapitaliast intellectuals like Krugman who infest universities and dominate the intellectual scene. Only a minority sympathize with the idea that one has an inalienable right to his money and those are the people who are able to cut through the propoganda.

I had a free education. All state education was free at that time.

Now parents earning more than $35K have to pay around $13,500 a year.

I love the way LRCers could possibly object to making educational opportunities easier for people.

buckley wrote:

I don't see any criticism of socialism in the op.

The OP wrote "discuss this socialist scheme", referring to Bernie sanders plan and how it would affect track funding.

And then I wrote how the current scheme is socialist when it comes to funding track teams.

But it would be interesting to know how recruitment would change without the carrot of scholarship.

I assume the free college would not include room and board, which is a major expense to go away to school.

And I doubt it would be free to go out of state.

So programs could offer that for kids going far from home.

The idea of "free" college seems like a good deal.

Free in that some new tax would be used to fund it.

The money people use saving for college or paying off loans would be given up in exchange for a tax amount that would be lower annually.

Freire wrote:

I love the way LRCers could possibly object to making educational opportunities easier for people.

I would love to see educational options (which are not synonymous with "opportunities") become both more accessible and more rational, i.e. based on the requirements for living successfully. That ideal will never be advanced by deeming education a "right" that the government has to provide by extorting money from people. Your education, like your healthcare and retirement income, is your own responsibility.

No, we need that money to give to countries like Jordan, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Afghanistan and Pakistan....

We can argue about education and retirement income because both become worth less to an individual if they have not contributed their own sweat to obtain them.

However, HEALTHCARE IS NOT AN INDIVIDUAL'S RESPONSIBILITY.

In 1986, Republicans made healthcare everyone's problem. "it’s worth remembering that Republican presidential icon Ronald Reagan imposed his own national healthcare mandate on the country. The mandate is well know today — it requires emergency rooms to treat anyone in need, regardless of their ability to pay — but the fact that Reagan signed it into law is often forgotten."

Freire wrote:

I love the way LRCers could possibly object to making educational opportunities easier for people.

Give me $200 out of your next paycheck to help me pay for my college.

If all the raindrops were lemondrops and gumdrops, oh what a rain that would be. I'd stand outside with my mouth open wide. Ah ah ah ahahah ah ah ah.

kjdf8095 wrote:

In 1986, Republicans made healthcare everyone's problem. "it’s worth remembering that Republican presidential icon Ronald Reagan imposed his own national healthcare mandate on the country. The mandate is well know today — it requires emergency rooms to treat anyone in need, regardless of their ability to pay — but the fact that Reagan signed it into law is often forgotten."

I could not care less who passed EMTALA; all I care about is getting rid of the vile piece of legislation. Your posting this betrays your preoccupation with partisan loyalties. Not everyone is like you.

I'm not for free college at all. We don't need to encourage more people to go to college. A college degree is watered down as it is...all we need is MORE people who shouldn't be going to college giving it a try since it's free.

This would NOT provide a super smart kid the opportunity to go to college where they couldn't before. The super smart ones get scholarships to go to college or get accepted to elite colleges that have amazing financial aid for those who are poor (and even for those who aren't that poor).

I WOULD be for fully-funded secondary education though (High school on down). No high school kid should have to sell stuff in order to be on a team or go to a marching band competition or anything else that is part of a normal high school experience.

College though...no way. Free college would ONLY bring in more bottom of the barrel students.

What about free college but have qualifying standards to get in?

And to get a degree you need to stick with it and pass the classes, so everyone would not be getting a free degree.

This would be a slight help to poorer kids but a great help to middle class families.

Who cares about Bernie Sanders? Few people are inspired by his promising a new tax every time he opens his mouth. Only reddit retards think he has a chance.

I don't agree that something like free college is using other people's money. Who says it's their money in the first place? When we vote for officials, a big part of what we're doing is choosing how our national resources are going to be distributed. If we depend too much on free markets for distributing resources, they get concentrated at the top. That's what was seen throughout Europe and the U.S. during the industrial revolution, and it's what we're seeing in the US today.

I titf*cked Kylie Jenner wrote:

I would love to see educational options (which are not synonymous with "opportunities") become both more accessible and more rational, i.e. based on the requirements for living successfully. That ideal will never be advanced by deeming education a "right" that the government has to provide by extorting money from people. Your education, like your healthcare and retirement income, is your own responsibility.

rupppert wrote:

"americans want STUFF. And who is going to give them that stuff...Barack Obama"

- Bill O' Reilly

I want loofas

Guy O'Leighken wrote:

I don't agree that something like free college is using other people's money. Who says it's their money in the first place? When we vote for officials, a big part of what we're doing is choosing how our national resources are going to be distributed.

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Straight out of the marxist manifesto. Please move to north Korea. Thanks