Doha 800m - Asbel capable of something very, very Special...

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  • ventolin^3
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    4 years ago 05/12/2015 3:20am CDT
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    great field :

    aman/asbel/bosse/ferguson/kipketer/soulemain

    good form guide : asbel hammered kipketer in march in 1'44.4 v 1'45.0 in nairobi & off last year's form, alfred has to be considered close to 1'43-flat shape

    if asbel runs a flat-out tt rather than his usual dawdling 800s at start with 25+ start & lots of extra distance in wide-bend running, he will smash thru 1'43

    he is capable of getting into 1'41s currently & not just dipping into 1'41s but dive-bombing into 1'41s

    but that will need route-1 thruout with 24-mid/high opener & 49-mid/high at bell & keeping commitment to tape

    i hope no 25+/50-high from him

    kip shoud get into 1'42s at alleged 18y

    soulemain coming in behind asbel shoud join him in the sub-1'43 / sub-3'30 club

    if it's tactical, then i expect aman to win & bosse not too far behind with asbel 3rd

    if asbel blasts it, look for an incredible clocking...
  • ventolin^3
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    4 years ago 05/12/2015 3:23am CDT
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    P.S.

    reckon mo will go 7'21/7'22 if he chases clock, but that's for another thread !
  • Bad Wigins
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    4 years ago 05/12/2015 3:25am CDT
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    Are you predicting Kiprop will WIN cause if so, that's my gig.
  • Coach..
    4 years ago 05/12/2015 3:28am CDT
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    Ventolin

    Do you believe asbel can beat ryuns 1-39 mark?

    Or is that out of the question here?
  • Geeeenius
    4 years ago 05/12/2015 3:40am CDT
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    Kiprop will not break 1:44 and Farah will not break 7:30.
  • Coach..
    4 years ago 05/12/2015 3:51am CDT
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    Geeeenius wrote:

    Kiprop will not break 1:44 and Farah will not break 7:30.

    Farahs ceiling is 7-23

    Where is ventolin getting 7-21 from?
  • wtfunny
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    4 years ago 05/12/2015 5:13am CDT
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    That's definitely the kind of form we can expect to see in May.

    My guess .. the 800m 1:43.high and the 3000m guys won't run under 7:30.
  • Ritz Raff
    4 years ago 05/12/2015 5:28am CDT
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    How do you know what kind of shape everyone is in?
  • enormous tool#543u
    4 years ago 05/12/2015 6:05am CDT
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    wtfunny wrote:

    That's definitely the kind of form we can expect to see in May.

    My guess .. the 800m 1:43.high and the 3000m guys won't run under 7:30.

    ^This
  • Mr. Obvious
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    4 years ago 05/12/2015 6:24am CDT
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    I honestly could see 728 as a possibility

    Just another shot in the dark prediction from ventolin. He makes thousands of these. He got one right one time. The rest you never hear about again.

    Renati Canova thinks his calculator is bunk as do other thinking track and field fans.
  • mostly dead
    4 years ago 05/12/2015 6:41am CDT
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    Hopefully everyone is 9/10ths dead so they can run their best like Cruz did in '84.
  • Daniel Komen run for the cure
    4 years ago 05/12/2015 7:25am CDT
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    ventolin^3 wrote:

    P.S.

    reckon mo will go 7'21/7'22 if he chases clock, but that's for another thread !

    Wut
  • tony the tiger
    4 years ago 05/12/2015 7:51am CDT
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    Sorry coach , I dont think Ventollin got lucky with his 3.28 prediction and I think he is right here as well, Mo is in great shape right now i'm not surprised if he dips under 7.23
  • Mr. Obvious
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    tony the tiger wrote:

    Sorry coach , I dont think Ventollin got lucky with his 3.28 prediction and I think he is right here as well, Mo is in great shape right now i'm not surprised if he dips under 7.23

    Want to place a wager on that?

    This is always where you can tell if people truly believe this stuff or not.
  • Coach..
    4 years ago 05/12/2015 8:03am CDT
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    Is he microdosing right now or full blown Epoping?

    And is he flying to doha direct from altitude?
  • Arrow head
    4 years ago 05/12/2015 12:07pm CDT
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    Coach.. wrote:

    mr. obvious wrote:

    I honestly could see 728 as a possibility

    Just another shot in the dark prediction from ventolin. He makes thousands of these. He got one right one time. The rest you never hear about again.

    Renati Canova thinks his calculator is bunk as do other thinking track and field fans.

    Ventolin got lucky with the 3-28

    He been exponentially propagating his drunken horsesh1t ever since


    You're absolutely on the button.

    Ventolin is wrong, often outrageously so, about 90% of the time. Once in a while he gets it right and then arrogantly crows about how he knows more than the athletes and coaches for months afterwards. And Mo only hit 3:28 coz he was highly likely on something.

    His calculator is bunk, his 'analysis' blinkered, exaggerated and biased.
  • jjjjjj
    4 years ago 05/12/2015 12:22pm CDT
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    Doha's a fast meet. Money brings it out. 3k has been sub 7:30 before. Kiprop with hammy issues might not be all there in 800m. Despite the fine field, I don't see him running 1:41 or even 1:42, but he does have the ability to go 1:42 when healthy this year. I see 1:43-44. If he does run 1:41, he'll have a shot at 3:26. Will the 3k pacers go out ahead of 5:00 and will anyone follow? If 4:55ish and Mo with them, then we would see sub 7:25, but 7:26-28 seems much more likely.
  • wtfunny
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    4 years ago 05/12/2015 12:29pm CDT
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    Ritz Raff wrote:

    How do you know what kind of shape everyone is in?

    Well, I don't. But we've all seen most of those guys run plenty of times, and neither Mo or Asbel have ever showed they can the kind of times Vent predicted. And rarely do athletes at this level peak for their first meet of the season.

    Here's something on Mo. His 1500m pb is nearly 3 seconds slower then el G. His 5000m pb is SLOWER than el G. What makes anyone think his 3000m time will be 1-2 seconds faster than el G ran in a race rabbeted specifically go after the world record?

    Or, Mo's 1500m pb is marginally faster than Daniel Komen's; his 5000m pb is 14 seconds SLOWER than Komen's. Do you really think Mo is going to run within 2 seconds of Komen's 3000m wr, possibly his greatest ever performance? In the middle of May?
  • jjjjj
    4 years ago 05/12/2015 12:33pm CDT
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    El G himself thought Mo could get the indoor mile record this year after running 8:03 2M. Mo has not run a fast 5000m won in the 12:40s since joining Salazar. With 3:28.81, 8:03i, and 12:45 (attainable, just faster than guys he handled at World and Olympics), 7:24 is in reach. 7:21? Doubt it.
  • TAA
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    4 years ago 05/12/2015 12:37pm CDT
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    I don't think Kiprop will PR. His performances are always great or very disappointing. I'll go with a high 1:44.

    Farah goes 7:33