Can I apply Tyler Hamilton's "sleeping after a ride" strategy to my running and shed some pounds? Anyone tried it?

He also infused a few pints of blood which eliminates the need for food.

Well yea, though I don't know about that eliminating the need for food.

Curious to know if a method like this could work though.

This method is for the elite of the elite to maximize power to weight ratio for the tour. He was already training harder than anyone on letsrun could imagine and was extremely lean with an excellent diet.

You just need to eat slightly less and make better food choices. Incorporate short sprints along with high weight, low rep weightlifting if you arent already

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Captain Oblivious wrote:

He also infused a few pints of blood which eliminates the need for food.

And dosing with EPO to maximize oxygen carrying capacity. So any loss of aerobic power from loss of muscle tissue due to the extreme caloric deficit (which he had) was compensated and then some by his supreme ability to deliver oxygen.

So unless you can get regular transfusions and get your hands on some EPO, you're just gonna be a slow, skeletal, sleepy runner.

Right, because drugs are the only way to become SUPER HUMANS WHO CAN ROAM THE UNIVERSE!

Hammer down wrote:

He was already training harder than anyone on letsrun could imagine

Um, no. He was doping as hard as a NOPer, but bikies don't train harder than runners. That is an ignorant and foolish myth promulgated by jealous bikies with desperate and pathetic need for attention.

Burnable Book wrote:

bikies don't train harder than runners. That is an ignorant and foolish myth promulgated by jealous bikies with desperate and pathetic need for attention.

They do. Harder and much longer.

seen both sides wrote:

Burnable Book wrote:

bikies don't train harder than runners. That is an ignorant and foolish myth promulgated by jealous bikies with desperate and pathetic need for attention.

They do. Harder and much longer.

No, they don't. Ever watch a sprinter lounge around for a few hours and call it training? Same-same as biking. Half the time is coasting.

melatonin is pretty nice, i wouldn't worry about it

the cannibal wrote:

seen both sides wrote:

They do. Harder and much longer.

No, they don't. Ever watch a sprinter lounge around for a few hours and call it training? Same-same as biking. Half the time is coasting.

OK, you just confirmed you're simply ignorant on both sprinting and cycling. The training for these are completely different and you seen to known nothing about either.

Right, I climbed 8000 feet today and rode for four hours- but it was all coasting because I'm unable to pedal down hills?

I also used to do 2 hour long runs. Really they all suck. Running makes you feel worse in the sense that you feel like you're on the brink of injury. Cycling makes you feel worse in an overall body/mind tired. But comparing a 90 mile running week to a 20 hour cycling week, they're both super hard. You just physically feel different.

I think you may have totally misunderstood what Tyler was trying to get across about this, and other techniques he used.

Of course cycling and running can be hard. But imagine a cyclist who is to ride a Major tour. it demands things of the Body, that not many People endure in their lives. They have to prepare their Body for a 3 week ordeal with hard cycling day after day. I think this takes slighlty more from the Body than say a 2hour10 Marathon and they have to Train accordingly.

But of course competitive running is not a walk in the park either. And running causes more Impact on the Body than cycling, so you just can not run that often so intensive without getting injured.

Just my opinion

seen both sides wrote:

Burnable Book wrote:

bikies don't train harder than runners. That is an ignorant and foolish myth promulgated by jealous bikies with desperate and pathetic need for attention.

They do. Harder and much longer.

It's not because they are inherently tougher, it's because the mechanical efficiency of a cyclist is only ~25%. That means they can sustain a higher perceived effort than a runner whose mechanical efficiency is closer to ~43%.

The body can only transmit so much energy and because it transmits less on the bike, one can do it substantially longer. Taking the eccentric contractions out of the equation is a game changer! The perceived effort of an eccentric contraction while running is quite minimal, but the stress is significant, as anyone knows who has done considerable cycling and running. You just can't hurt as long running as you can on the bike, unless you are running up a 15+% grade where the eccentric contraction is nearly eliminated.

As to the OP...sure it works, but as a runner you'll have to do it in a period of training where the volume is high, but the intensity is only moderate.

seen both sides wrote:

Harder and much longer.

what she said.

Cyclists can get away with starvating themselves because their sport is zero impact. A runner who doesn't eat will lose bone mass fast and break.

Top cyclists get shamefully skinny, Chris Froome is a dang skeleton. Mo Farah is more suspicious though, how he manages to starve and not get injured. Maybe there's some kind of techno-trick to that.

I think, Mo Farah is still muscular than Chris Froome. Farah is just shorter, so the weight is still very low.

Adding sprints will help shed pounds?

Yes, outside of additional calories burned, all out full recovery sprints release hormones that help the body build muscle and lean out. Don't worry adding sprints will not turn you into a big muscled meat head, you wont notice any additional muscle outside of maybe your glutes.