MONACO 5k is stacked!

Startlist:

ALAMIREW Yenew

BEKELE Tariku

BETT Josphat Kipkoech

ESPANA Jesús

FARAH Mohammed

KIPCHOGE Eliud

KOECH Isaiah Kiplangat

KRUMMENACKER David

KUMA Abera

LAGAT Bernard

LEBID Sergiy

LONGOSIWA Thomas Pkemei

MERGA Imane

MOTTRAM Craig

RONO Vincent

ROTICH Lucas Kimeli

RUPP Galen

SÁNCHEZ MARTINEZ Sergio

SOLINSKY Chris

TEGENKAMP Matt

YATOR Vincent Kipsegechi

http://www.diamondleague-monaco.com/en/Program/Overview/5000m/

mo has asked for a 12:48 pace.

JimJones13.44 wrote:

Look at the weather in Monaco. Hot and Muggy. I don't think this will be nearly as fast as we all hope. But it is hot and muggy in Daegu so this could be a preview of how that race will look. To be honest it gives Rupp and Farah a much better chance to beat people like Merga, Koech, and to a certain extent...Bekele. Those 3 guys have proven they can run low 12:50's and below but in a sit and kick they are much more vulnerable.

Mid 70's with mid 60's humidity at 8:00 pm ...almost identical to Eugene!

Don't know the weather. But my gut tells me it will be slower than anyone is saying. The winning time will be about 12:58. 1. Mo2. Lagat3. Rupp4. Bekele5. SolinskyThe top 5 and a few others will all be pretty close. Within a few seconds of each other.

JimJones13.44 wrote:

Look at the weather in Monaco. Hot and Muggy. I don't think this will be nearly as fast as we all hope. But it is hot and muggy in Daegu so this could be a preview of how that race will look. To be honest it gives Rupp and Farah a much better chance to beat people like Merga, Koech, and to a certain extent...Bekele. Those 3 guys have proven they can run low 12:50's and below but in a sit and kick they are much more vulnerable.

"Dear Americans...I want to break 12:50 in the 5000m, I just don't want to do any of the work"

-Lagat

I'm a firm believer in speed related to endurance and not doing what Americans often call 'junk miles' --Bernard Lagat

http://www.iaaf.org/news/printer,newsid=11980.htmx

I used to use that quote as a sig file, until a few too many so-called "serious" runners went absolutely ballistic reading it. Of course, those runners couldn't run 2 training miles with Bernard, let alone 50 or so of them a week, almost all of them under 5:15 pace, or so says Dr. Li.

Face reality here. In the period since the Oregon Project has started, Dr. Li has coached 10 medals. Salazar and Jerry combined have 1. Lagat himself has made every distance runner in Oregon combined look like a joke. And Bernard didn't get to the point of beating Kenyans and Ethiopians regularly by being lazy.

If you want to win, you should be more like Terrence Mahon and listen to him.

Stop clownin joemama. 1)Your biased opinion is not fact. 2)Your anger of athletes not running more to please you is selfish and retarded. 3)I'm not saying rupp/mo are not capable of huge things but you have some lofty goals for them, but would be pumped if they did. 4)Sol hasnt even really been in any fast paced races for you to know his shape other than the 10k he dropped because of his injury(unless you believe this is more secret games being played by jerry).

I am pumped to see how all the Americans do though!

Duhr wrote:

Stop clownin joemama. 1)Your biased opinion is not fact. 2)Your anger of athletes not running more to please you is selfish and retarded. 3)I'm not saying rupp/mo are not capable of huge things but you have some lofty goals for them, but would be pumped if they did. 4)Sol hasnt even really been in any fast paced races for you to know his shape other than the 10k he dropped because of his injury(unless you believe this is more secret games being played by jerry).

I am pumped to see how all the Americans do though!

Joe mama is setting mo and rupp up to fail, nothing more.

Monaco has the fastest track on the circuit, which will suit Alamirew down to the ground. It’s the constant change of pace he struggles with. Just watch him take off at the 300 meter mark. No one will be able to live him.

Alamire

Merga

Koech

Alamariw is the biggest doper on the circuit. Coming out of nowhere last year in Rieti running 7:27. Yeah right!

yooooouuu wrote:

Its not going to be as fast as people are predicting. I'd say winner goes 12:55 (lagat), with Merga/Farah right behind lagat, solinsky/rupp somewhere around 12:58ish.

in typical fashion we're seeing everyone bank on Farah. he ran great at Pre and very well at home in Birmingham, but he is certainly not wholly proven on the international level.

this is the race to test the engines and it should only serve that purpose. i'm sure a runner like Solinsky is not coming to run a slow tactical. if he's only chosen Monaco then it'll need to be something he can hang his socks on.

Wouldn't it be better for the sport if all the doping conspiracy asshats just p*** off and leave the testing/enforcing to the officials?

Better thread -

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=4134328

Rupp all the way - his first big international win.

Fastnbulbous wrote:

Wouldn't it be better for the sport if all the doping conspiracy asshats just p*** off and leave the testing/enforcing to the officials?

Better thread -

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=4134328

Maybe it would be better for the sport if we just stuck our heads in the ground and ignore the facts that those finally caught doping had evaded the system for many years. And ignore the fact that letsrunners have a record of outing dopers BEFORE WADA.

What a load of BS. Let's Run have collectively accused pretty much every damn runner who has a good race of doping. There are no facts involved in that kind of armchair speculation. So why not relax until the actual guilty parties are caught by those who DO have the facts and just enjoy the races.

Well obviously it's because they've been running 200 miles, all uphill, on sand dunes with backpacks. They're gonna be monsters. That said.1. Merga 12:51.212. Lagat 12:51.223. Alamirew 12:51.234. Farah 12:52.565. Solinsky 12:52.576. Kipchoge 12:52.587. Rupp 12:56.028. Mottram 12:58.769. Tegenkamp 12:59.6610. Rotich 13:00.01

thankful4MONACO wrote:

I think you're onto to something here, at least I agree with you. Schumacher's crew hasn't done anything spectacular this year to date (besides bumbi's impressive PRs and Jager coming back somewhat).

Farah and Rupp will be up there and close to the win, but you gotta be thinking the Kenyans will be up there too, they prob will run fast, and train through the next month before worlds.

1) Farah 12:51

2) Kipchoge 12:51

3) Merga 12:51

4) Alamirew 12:52

5) Lagat 12:55

6) Rupp 12:55

7) Rotich 12:55

8) Solinsky 12:56

9) Mottram 12:57

10)Tegenkamp 12:59

first time four americans under 1300!

if its slow, itll be same finish order, but add ten seconds and no one gets under 1300!!

Harpua wrote:

1. Lagat 12:54

2. Merga 12:54

3. Farah 12:55

4. Kenya 12:56

5. Bekele 12:57

5. Rupp 12:58

6. Solinsky 12:58

7. Kenya 12:59

Teg 13:04

I'd like to amend my post.

1. Lagat 12:56

2. Merga 12:56

3. Alimerew 12:57

4. Farah 12:58

5. Bekele 12:58

6. Kenya 12:59

7. Rupp 12:59

8. Solinsky 13:02

9. Kenya 13:04

10. Tegenkamp 13:07

11. Mottram 13:09

Pace goes out quite fast (1:30 for 600) but the rabbit slows to 62+s and they go through 3k in 7:47 (much to our, the viewing audience's, frustration.)

At this point the rabbit drops, no one wants to lead, and people realize sub 12:50 is off and wait for the kick. 4k is reached in 10:30 and the pack bunches until 500m to go. Lagat and Merga have the finishing speed and the pack is left in their wake. Rupp and Farah close well but don't have it the last 200. Solinsky suffers the same fate, but a little more severely. Teg doesn't have the fitness to hang the last 600m.

7 guys still break 13 but this race proves two things. A) Lagat is the class of the field. B) Breaking 12:50 is a special, and rare thing.

Joe Mama wrote:

Sol has not pop anything worth noting this whole outdoor season... plus with his coach's crazy super duper triple secret training, we never know what shape he is in...

So running the last 3200 at nationals in under 8:10 is both not worth noting and not indicative of his fitness?

subject chet predicate wrote:

this is the race to test the engines and it should only serve that purpose. i'm sure a runner like Solinsky is not coming to run a slow tactical. if he's only chosen Monaco then it'll need to be something he can hang his socks on.

Actually, Solinsky has made it pretty clear that he runs to win. Not to say that he will win here but that will be his goal. He will not try to force the pace to get a fast time. The time is strictly secondary to him.