Building up to high Mileage question

really?

run 17-18 miles every day. not that hard to figure out.

Yea, but how many double should you or would you put in? Any triples?

double mon - sat. and long run sun.

you are in grad school?

Yea, why?

You'll have a hard time holding up doing 120 on one run if you're like most of us. The guy who said to double Mon.-Sat and to run once on Sunday knows what he's talking about. That's the way most people doing that sort of volume do it unless they also run twice on Sunday.

If you're going to do this you need to start somewhere so you might as well start doing it as its worked for most people. But like anything else, you'll have your own experiences and may find that some other way works better for you.

Wanna go high wrote:

Yea, why?

You don't have the psychological profile of a high mileage runner.

i dont understand malmo :( care to explain?

My first reaction was going to be "You aren't really serious about running high mileage and won't last at it for very long." I decided on the other answer instead. I actually agree with malmo here.

My reason for thinking the OP doesn't have the psychological profile of a high mileage runner is that he's over thinking, over analyzing and over questioning. You can find countless examples of people who've run 120 mpw and how they arrange it. He was given a perfectly good answer on this thread.

It's not that complicated but at some point you have to shut up and do something. I get the impression that the OP is really, at heart, looking for a reason not to run that much and will use the inability of people to spell out a detailed plan complete with rational for that plan as that reason.

But I decided not to say all that.

HRE wrote:

But I decided not to say all that.

Except you just did.

True. But that doesn't mean I did not once decide not to say it.

Increase your mileage ~10% per week. Use a logarithm to find out how long that will take.

Wanna go high wrote:

OK, So I am a college grad student and ran for a D1 school when I was an undergrad. I keep reading stuff on Letsrun and other sites that does discuss high mileage in terms of like 120-150 miles per week. I was wondering what the best way to build up to the mileage would be? I have a good amount of free time and wouldn't mind experimenting with higher mileage like 120-140. In the past I have built up to 90 before...anyone want to help design what a week would look like at 120. Would you do all doubles for the whole week?

Don´t do it. You´ll need the long hard workouts alternating with lower volume recovery days.

Why you assume that you have to train like a typical marathoner? Is that your target? I hope not because you are too young to be a marathoner.

You need to build up gradually, especially as you are not even doing 90 miles a week at the momement

Base training schedule for you.

1) Very long run or long threshold

2) Easy short run or rest

3) 1-2 easy short run(s)

4) Long goal pace session, keep it aerobic

5) Easy short run or rest

6) Easy short run and Sprints and weight training

7) 1-2 easy short run(s)

The focus is on your hard days, that´s what counts. Forget the overall mileage.

Try 10 days microcycle if you don´t recover.

No, that's a base training schedule for someone who wants to focus on hard days at the expense of volume. It's nearly the opposite of what was being asked.

"Run twice six or seven days a week and don't overthink it," as has been suggested, answers the question admirably.

Hang on, OP, don't lose faith yet.

See, all this old timers have let me in on their magical secrets. Since they're being snippy now, I'll type it up for you. I hope the mods don't delete this before you see it!

Monday- AM 7 easy PM 10 easy + strides

Tuesday- AM 5 easy PM 12mi including a tempo run or long interval session

Wednesday AM 7 easy PM 10 easy

Thursday AM 7 easy PM 10 easy + strides

Friday- AM 5 easy PM 12 including some kind or fartlek workout or hills

Saturday- AM 7 easy PM 10 easy

Sunday- 20, first half easy, 2nd half faster

They also told me in secret emails to cut back a run or even take a day off if I felt really tired, but on the other side of the coin, I should feel free to run as fast I feel like running on the easy mileage. I was also instructed that if any time I did not feel like I could repeat whatever I did the previous day without tons of stress (whether that was a 10miler I decided to hammer or a workout) then whatever I did yesterday was too hard.

Anyway, this One True Schedule adds up to 122 miles. Being in college with student teaching and work, I tend to top out about 90 a week myself. If you want to run 123 miles, well, God help you, because HRE and malmo don't trust me enough to give me that schedule yet. And with this stunt, I don't think they'll be very open to helping me out for a while.

You show sufficient knowledge, Grasshopper, though we must consider the effects of spilling the secrets. But you have merited the next lesson:

Own the number. Do not let the number own you.

nsmb, old and slow wrote:

It's nearly the opposite of what was being asked.

So what, my way is better than that. If you want the highest possible mileage then it´s not.

Blow it out your ass you bag of wind.

And nice job on your last line there -- intentional irony?

To the OP, nevermind these morons giving you a hard time. Obviously you have to overthink a thing or too if you have a life. You see, many of these people don't have one of those (a life), and therefore don't see what the big issue is.

As for mileage. I would suggest first just trying to get back up to 90, then maybe 100-105. Double only a few times a week.