As I wrote earlier, Kipyegon is generally regarded as legitimate. You saw this in the reaction from her competitors last night in Florence.
Contrast that with the far more subdued reaction from Katir’s competitors and it tells you what they think of him.
For a multitude of reasons I don't think there is anything genuine about her performance. She is as suspicious as any other runner at the top now. That is the nature of sport today. Doping is everywhere and they are rarely caught.
Nick Willis was at the top for years. Good of you to state he must have been a doper.
Dibaba 3:50 - breaks doped record, probably doped, her competitors didn't congratulate her
Kipyegon 3:49 - breaks probable doped record by nearly a full second, she's clean bro, everyone loves her and she has a great reputation .
That's because as far as I know, she's never done anything remotely suspicious other than run fast times.
Only a doper can destroy both their competition and the records in a doped sport. WADA puts track up there with body building, weightlifting and cycling as one of its major doping concerns.
For a multitude of reasons I don't think there is anything genuine about her performance. She is as suspicious as any other runner at the top now. That is the nature of sport today. Doping is everywhere and they are rarely caught.
Nick Willis was at the top for years. Good of you to state he must have been a doper.
No one today can be confidently pronounced clean. But good of you to concede my point.
Nick Willis was at the top for years. Good of you to state he must have been a doper.
No one today can be confidently pronounced clean. But good of you to concede my point.
Obviously you can't read. I didn't concede anything but your narcissism makes you want to feel I did. What time is it there now? 2:30 a.m.? You should put the whisky down and go to bed.
But good of you to not trust Nick Willis to have been clean.
No one today can be confidently pronounced clean. But good of you to concede my point.
Obviously you can't read. I didn't concede anything but your narcissism makes you want to feel I did. What time is it there now? 2:30 a.m.? You should put the whisky down and go to bed.
But good of you to not trust Nick Willis to have been clean.
I didn't say Willis was a doper but made the point that "no one can confidently be pronounced clean". You didn't choose to deny he could be doping so by implication you were saying he is and you were conceding my point. But you aren't bright enough to see that is what you did. Having you appear to agree with me is hardly the flattery you think it is.
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Obviously you can't read. I didn't concede anything but your narcissism makes you want to feel I did. What time is it there now? 2:30 a.m.? You should put the whisky down and go to bed.
But good of you to not trust Nick Willis to have been clean.
I didn't say Willis was a doper but made the point that "no one can confidently be pronounced clean". You didn't choose to deny he could be doping so by implication you were saying he is and you were conceding my point. But you aren't bright enough to see that is what you did. Having you appear to agree with me is hardly the flattery you think it is.
I didn't say Willis was a doper but made the point that "no one can confidently be pronounced clean". You didn't choose to deny he could be doping so by implication you were saying he is and you were conceding my point. But you aren't bright enough to see that is what you did. Having you appear to agree with me is hardly the flattery you think it is.
Is Willis a doper? Wightman?
I doubt that anything today below 3.30 is clean. I doubt that any competitor in a championship final is clean. That's what doping in the sport has done. Nothing can be trusted. Would you trust the best in bodybuilding, weightlifting and cycling are clean - because that is where WADA has grouped T and F for doping risk?
I doubt that anything today below 3.30 is clean. I doubt that any competitor in a championship final is clean. That's what doping in the sport has done. Nothing can be trusted. Would you trust the best in bodybuilding, weightlifting and cycling are clean - because that is where WADA has grouped T and F for doping risk?
You just stated in another thread that you're inclined to believe Laura Muir is clean. She's run 3:54. I wonder what sets her apart from the others? 🏳
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I doubt that anything today below 3.30 is clean. I doubt that any competitor in a championship final is clean. That's what doping in the sport has done. Nothing can be trusted. Would you trust the best in bodybuilding, weightlifting and cycling are clean - because that is where WADA has grouped T and F for doping risk?
Equally, all these athletes below are DOPING!!! Fred kerley Erriyon knighton Grant Holloway Athing Amu Noah Lyles Coleman Richardson Bracy Marvin Etc etc.
Classic euro targeting American athletes. It is far more likely Kipyegon is doping than everyone here (except Coleman). Do you not know a single person personally that has ran fast before?
I doubt that anything today below 3.30 is clean. I doubt that any competitor in a championship final is clean. That's what doping in the sport has done. Nothing can be trusted. Would you trust the best in bodybuilding, weightlifting and cycling are clean - because that is where WADA has grouped T and F for doping risk?
You just stated in another thread that you're inclined to believe Laura Muir is clean. She's run 3:54. I wonder what sets her apart from the others? 🏳
What sets her apart from the others is her performances aren't freakish and she is frequently exhausted at the end of her races. And she doesn't come from countries where doping is known to be a serious problem or where testing is very inadequate. But that doesn't prove she's clean. It merely suggests a case for her doping is harder to make.
I doubt that anything today below 3.30 is clean. I doubt that any competitor in a championship final is clean. That's what doping in the sport has done. Nothing can be trusted. Would you trust the best in bodybuilding, weightlifting and cycling are clean - because that is where WADA has grouped T and F for doping risk?
And sub 3:30 as well as 1:41 decades aCoe?
I can't claim that the best performances in the '80's were clean either. Many of them wouldn't have been. We certainly know that was so with the E Bloc athletes (and American sprinters). But I have little doubt about the best performances from the '90's onwards.
I can't claim that the best performances in the '80's were clean either. Many of them wouldn't have been. We certainly know that was so with the E Bloc athletes (and American sprinters). But I have little doubt about the best performances from the '90's onwards.
a 3:29 four decades ago might have been clean, but any such time from the last years with much better shoes, tracks, wavelights and so on definitely is doped?
Dibaba 3:50 - breaks doped record, probably doped, her competitors didn't congratulate her
Kipyegon 3:49 - breaks probable doped record by nearly a full second, she's clean bro, everyone loves her and she has a great reputation .
That's because as far as I know, she's never done anything remotely suspicious other than run fast times.
So EPO does not work!
The Kenyan male 1500m record holder needed EPO but this Kenyan can run faster clean than proven dopers on EPO or roids. Get real. And surely a 3:54 runner would use EPO and beat the record.
