Obvious dopers are getting caught, and that suggests NOT EVERYBODY is doping

you have to be so naive to think that athletes are clean @ the olympics

Cramster3 wrote:

Ok. Feel better now?

Never will be. Not until the colonial/imperial project is complete.

Microdosing is a myth.Athletes are hard core doping as much as they always have.Its only a few that get popped.Almost all the sprinters i saw from the heats up are on steroid/HGH cocktails,and i can tell just from looking at them.You know athletics might have a big problem when the most natural looking woman in the 100 meter semi finals comes from china. Everyone in the womens final was on steroids,and perhaps all in the semis.Some of them have 5 oclock shadows,many have adams apples.The men also look freakish,and very unnatural.Many of the sprinters are caked in acne,and almost all the sprinters have roided v shapes.Too lean,too rippled in muscle,shoulders too wide,and round.rippling lats,raised traps ,shredded glutes veins popping out and wide,capped delts.

jeff tallon wrote:

Microdosing is a myth.Athletes are hard core doping as much as they always have.Its only a few that get popped.Almost all the sprinters i saw from the heats up are on steroid/HGH cocktails,and i can tell just from looking at them.You know athletics might have a big problem when the most natural looking woman in the 100 meter semi finals comes from china. Everyone in the womens final was on steroids,and perhaps all in the semis.Some of them have 5 oclock shadows,many have adams apples.The men also look freakish,and very unnatural.Many of the sprinters are caked in acne,and almost all the sprinters have roided v shapes.Too lean,too rippled in muscle,shoulders too wide,and round.rippling lats,raised traps ,shredded glutes veins popping out and wide,capped delts.

exactly

This raises several questions:

- is “3” so large that you almost lose count?

- Who exactly is this post addressed to? Who says “everybody is doping?” — apart from a handful of fringe extremists?

- How does 3 “obvious dopers” getting caught give you any insight to “obvious dopers” not getting caught, or “non-obvious dopers”?

- Where do you get your facts and how do you confirm them? Apparently 9.84 is the result of faulty timing. I counted 5 Kenyans faster than 10.10.

jeff tallon wrote:

You know athletics might have a big problem when the most natural looking woman in the 100 meter semi finals comes from china.

Hahaha yes, I noticed that too.

Anyway, even if one hopes that only 40% dope at this global elite level: with about 50 athletes in one competition, that's 20 dopers. 9 in the final - that's 7 - 9 dopers. 3 on the podium - well...

It's by design. World Athletics boasts at every competition with how well they are doing because fast times are being run. Just imagine the embarrassment when all of a sudden no hulks are at the 100 m starting lines, and no one breaks 10 anymore.

The voice of anti-doping officials:

”Only the dumb and the careless get caught" - Richard Pound/David Howman, WADA.

As Howman has also said - "the dopers are more sophisticated than those trying to catch them". - Howman

The “unofficial” voice:

“Doping is winning the race - in every sense.” - Armstronglivs

“There will be hundreds of dopers at the Games” - Armstronglivs

“the better amongst them will be on the podium.” - Armstronglivs

“Most will never be caught.” - Armstronglivs

“It is wilfully naive to think we are seeing anything that is fundamentally different from WWE, body-building, or the T de F.” - Armstronglivs

Armstronglivs wrote:

There will be hundreds of dopers at the Games

There are over 10,000 athletes. So I bett thousands of dopers, not just hundreds.

- Look, I'm nit a boring autist. I like to use colorful language when expressing myself.

- There are quite a few here unfortunately. I agree they are fringe in the real world, and some are likely the same person/Putim troll/you.

-I explained in my post.

-I get my facts from official World Arhletics results, not LetsRun message board.

- According to World Athletics, two Kenyans have ran faster than 10.10 and both have now been busted. Why do you think anyone is interested in what you can (mis)count in your fantasy world?

Number 32 wrote:

- According to World Athletics, two Kenyans have ran faster than 10.10 and both have now been busted. Why do you think anyone is interested in what you can (mis)count in your fantasy world?

He is wrong but so were you with your 2 Kenyans under 10.27. Why do you think anyone is interested in what you can (mis)count in your fantasy world?

casual obsever wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

There will be hundreds of dopers at the Games

There are over 10,000 athletes. So I bett thousands of dopers, not just hundreds.

🤣

What were you doing in Ukraine?

Number 32 wrote:

- Look, I'm nit a boring autist. I like to use colorful language when expressing myself.

- There are quite a few here unfortunately. I agree they are fringe in the real world, and some are likely the same person/Putim troll/you.

-I explained in my post.

-I get my facts from official World Arhletics results, not LetsRun message board.

- According to World Athletics, two Kenyans have ran faster than 10.10 and both have now been busted. Why do you think anyone is interested in what you can (mis)count in your fantasy world?

Wait a minute — is “Number 32” and “Coevett” the same poster? Mind blown!

“Nit a boring autist”? “Putim”? Do you need spell check turned on or off? Maybe you meant you are an “artist” who uses “colorful language”?

I think you are right to say “everyone is not doping”, but just think you say that for the wrong reasons.

Far from saying “everyone is doping”, I’m the rare exception on the other end of the extreme that suggests that even the “worst” estimates of “conservative” lower bound estimates of “at least 29%”, because of the methodology used, could be inflated, because it is based on an assumption that anonymity for “sensitive questions” like doping, guarantees survey compliance.

I’m also the rare exception to say that “red flags” like fast performances, and sudden jumps in performance, are prone to misinterpretation by those with incomplete knowledge, with a strong need to find confirmation about their predetermined beliefs.

I can only conclude that the “World Athletics” link is incomplete. I found the following Kenyans at “alltime athletics”, which only lists sub-10.10 performances: Ferdinand Omurwa, Mark Odhiambo, Kennedy Ondiek, Mike Nyangau, Maurice Wasike. If you think that is a miscount, please double-check for yourself that it is FIVE. There may be more that have gone sub-10.27, but that list isn’t that deep. Maybe it isn’t as “colorful” as you suggest, but 3 is really large enough for you to lose count.

jeff tallon wrote:

Microdosing is a myth.Athletes are hard core doping as much as they always have.Its only a few that get popped.Almost all the sprinters i saw from the heats up are on steroid/HGH cocktails,and i can tell just from looking at them.You know athletics might have a big problem when the most natural looking woman in the 100 meter semi finals comes from china. Everyone in the womens final was on steroids,and perhaps all in the semis.Some of them have 5 oclock shadows,many have adams apples.The men also look freakish,and very unnatural.Many of the sprinters are caked in acne,and almost all the sprinters have roided v shapes.Too lean,too rippled in muscle,shoulders too wide,and round.rippling lats,raised traps ,shredded glutes veins popping out and wide,capped delts.

Exactly ...It's getting unusual to find a clean, non cheating athlete and all the new records aren't from shoe's, there's a new drug circulating. A whole sport full of dishonest, lying, degenerates.

No, it suggests that some people are better at doping than others.

I was watching some of the track and field with my best friend,and several times he asked 'is that a man,or a woman?'he honestly thought the venezuelan triple jump champion was a man.I told him 'if you thought the swimmers look like laboratory experiments,wait till you see track and field......' he thought the male and female sprinters looked hideous.

I mean, the entire brit Olympic team in every event in every sport is doped beyond belief. The mandatory state sponsored brit doping program is outrageous.

Rekrunner actually typed and posted this during the 100m Olympic final.

I mean who is this guy who spends hours a week trying to convince a running forum that nobody dopes and that doping doesn't work anyway, and yet is clearly neither a hobby jogger (despite his name) nor a track fan?

Coevett wrote:

Rekrunner actually typed and posted this during the 100m Olympic final.

I mean who is this guy who spends hours a week trying to convince a running forum that nobody dopes and that doping doesn't work anyway, and yet is clearly neither a hobby jogger (despite his name) nor a track fan?

The way modern computers work today, with big graphical screens, I can do multiple things in multiple windows in parallel. There is plenty of dead time between events.

It’s curious, but not wholly unexpected, after I supplied facts that showed FIVE is more than TWO, that you turn your direction towards me, rather than apply corrections to your previous colorful language to accommodate the new realities.

It’s also curious that first you accuse me of likely belonging to a fringe saying “everybody dopes”, and in the next post that I’m trying to convince a running forum that “nobody dopes”. Is talking in opposite extremes part of the non-boring artful colorful language?