In the SI Olympic preview issue, Chavez had a sidebar on Aliphine Tuliamuk in which he wrote that Tuliamuk and Sally Kipyego will be the first two African-born Americans to compete for the U.S. in the Olympic marathon. It's surprising that somebody who gets paid to write and talk about U.S. racing doesn't know (or forgot) that Meb, Abdi, and Colleen de Reuck* all have done this. And does SI not have any factcheckers?
* Those were just the ones I remember; there may have been others.
Overlooking Meb alone should get him suspended.
This guy makes mistakes all the time on his podcast. Always wonder why he never gets called out for anything.
It's too bad the mistake was made, but we're lucky to have someone like Chris covering our sport.
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The world began in 2008, don't you know that?
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Roflcopter wrote:
It's too bad the mistake was made, but we're lucky to have someone like Chris covering our sport.
I get along just fine never reading a single article of his. I recommend you give it a try. There are plenty of better writers covering our sport. The only thing he has going for him is that major news outlets carry his articles, while many of the better writers are only found on small websites, etc. But what use is the a random smattering of inaccurate and surface level articles about track in main stream publications? I doubt its bringing in any new fans to the sport. Its just fluff filling out the pages. He's the sportswriter equivalent to elevator music.
Almost everything you need to know about Chris Chavez as a reporter is contained in this image. They're the two headlines of the initial SI Shelby Houlihan story he wrote in his usual sixth-grade way. Whoever corrected the headline didn't make a note of it or remark on any of the public hectoring it took to compel the correction.
Chris Chavez writes and says stupid things almost continuously, many of them about himself. He's enthusiastic about what he does, but that has its limits, and his main aim is to promote himself and his various Citius enterprises. That would be great if he were better at it and he had decent help.
With few exceptions, the only Web sources offering consistently intelligent interviews, meaningful forecasts, or knowledgeable recaps are this site and The Morning Shakeout. For technical stuff, Alex Hutchinson. The rest of the regulars -- the swath of podcasters who jabber mainly about themselves and each other along with the Woke whiners and halfwits at the legacy pubs -- are in a clumsy race to outdo each other with their various forms of preening and ass-kissing disguised as media coverage. Either this comes at the cost of significant accuracy, or none of these actors would be competent even if they took their sweet time.
Shorter version: Are you really surprised?
holterskolter2 wrote:
Roflcopter wrote:
It's too bad the mistake was made, but we're lucky to have someone like Chris covering our sport.
I get along just fine never reading a single article of his. I recommend you give it a try. There are plenty of better writers covering our sport. The only thing he has going for him is that major news outlets carry his articles, while many of the better writers are only found on small websites, etc. But what use is the a random smattering of inaccurate and surface level articles about track in main stream publications? I doubt its bringing in any new fans to the sport. Its just fluff filling out the pages. He's the sportswriter equivalent to elevator music.
Agree plus he's way more concerned with being the athlete's friend then actually providing real coverage that and his stories on his own running. He never breaks any news and writes mostly fluff pieces. Nothing that brings insight into the sport. (but a least he didn't write an opinion piece defending a doper ala Gault). Track reporting has $0 and you get what you pay for.
I haven't read one of his articles in years.....and haven't missed a thing in the sport.
KMB wrote:
Almost everything you need to know about Chris Chavez as a reporter is contained in this image. They're the two headlines of the initial SI Shelby Houlihan story he wrote in his usual sixth-grade way. Whoever corrected the headline didn't make a note of it or remark on any of the public hectoring it took to compel the correction.
https://tinyurl.com/3pn685s8Chris Chavez writes and says stupid things almost continuously, many of them about himself. He's enthusiastic about what he does, but that has its limits, and his main aim is to promote himself and his various Citius enterprises. That would be great if he were better at it and he had decent help.
With few exceptions, the only Web sources offering consistently intelligent interviews, meaningful forecasts, or knowledgeable recaps are this site and The Morning Shakeout. For technical stuff, Alex Hutchinson. The rest of the regulars -- the swath of podcasters who jabber mainly about themselves and each other along with the Woke whiners and halfwits at the legacy pubs -- are in a clumsy race to outdo each other with their various forms of preening and ass-kissing disguised as media coverage. Either this comes at the cost of significant accuracy, or none of these actors would be competent even if they took their sweet time.
Shorter version: Are you really surprised?
He’s infinitely more impactful and readable than your trash “articles” that are just whiny drek about people more successful than you.
KMB wrote:
Almost everything you need to know about Chris Chavez as a reporter is contained in this image. They're the two headlines of the initial SI Shelby Houlihan story he wrote in his usual sixth-grade way. Whoever corrected the headline didn't make a note of it or remark on any of the public hectoring it took to compel the correction.
https://tinyurl.com/3pn685s8Chris Chavez writes and says stupid things almost continuously, many of them about himself. He's enthusiastic about what he does, but that has its limits, and his main aim is to promote himself and his various Citius enterprises. That would be great if he were better at it and he had decent help.
With few exceptions, the only Web sources offering consistently intelligent interviews, meaningful forecasts, or knowledgeable recaps are this site and The Morning Shakeout. For technical stuff, Alex Hutchinson. The rest of the regulars -- the swath of podcasters who jabber mainly about themselves and each other along with the Woke whiners and halfwits at the legacy pubs -- are in a clumsy race to outdo each other with their various forms of preening and ass-kissing disguised as media coverage. Either this comes at the cost of significant accuracy, or none of these actors would be competent even if they took their sweet time.
Shorter version: Are you really surprised?
Sums it up nicely. Chavez is not a journalist by any stretch (just a fanboy gossip columnist). SI would do well by severing that relationship. Agree on Hutchinson. He’s great. Actually reports the technical and science news in a measured, tempered, and neutral way. The rest of the scientific hacks (Magness, Tucker, etc) have zero credibility in the science world.
As with any arena, the loudest voices are simply self promoters and not stewards of the truth or facts. Dumb media laps it up and dumb voices keep filling the bowl.
People criticizing media figures should know some basic things about the media. Such as the fact that reporters don't write or edit their own headlines. The article cited by the OP is obviously factually incorrect, but otherwise I have nothing to say about Chavez. Lambasting him for a headline, though, is just dumb.
colder and wiser wrote:
People criticizing media figures should know some basic things about the media. Such as the fact that reporters don't write or edit their own headlines. The article cited by the OP is obviously factually incorrect, but otherwise I have nothing to say about Chavez. Lambasting him for a headline, though, is just dumb.
Yeah the dude writes like Chavez stole his gf or something. Weird
lrc since 03 wrote:
KMB wrote:
Almost everything you need to know about Chris Chavez as a reporter is contained in this image. They're the two headlines of the initial SI Shelby Houlihan story he wrote in his usual sixth-grade way. Whoever corrected the headline didn't make a note of it or remark on any of the public hectoring it took to compel the correction.
https://tinyurl.com/3pn685s8Chris Chavez writes and says stupid things almost continuously, many of them about himself. He's enthusiastic about what he does, but that has its limits, and his main aim is to promote himself and his various Citius enterprises. That would be great if he were better at it and he had decent help.
With few exceptions, the only Web sources offering consistently intelligent interviews, meaningful forecasts, or knowledgeable recaps are this site and The Morning Shakeout. For technical stuff, Alex Hutchinson. The rest of the regulars -- the swath of podcasters who jabber mainly about themselves and each other along with the Woke whiners and halfwits at the legacy pubs -- are in a clumsy race to outdo each other with their various forms of preening and ass-kissing disguised as media coverage. Either this comes at the cost of significant accuracy, or none of these actors would be competent even if they took their sweet time.
Shorter version: Are you really surprised?
He’s infinitely more impactful and readable than your trash “articles” that are just whiny drek about people more successful than you.
This. And I find Chavez's work uninteresting.
Umm.... Ever heard of Hilary Bor?
KMB wrote:
Almost everything you need to know about Chris Chavez as a reporter is contained in this image. They're the two headlines of the initial SI Shelby Houlihan story he wrote in his usual sixth-grade way. Whoever corrected the headline didn't make a note of it or remark on any of the public hectoring it took to compel the correction.
https://tinyurl.com/3pn685s8Chris Chavez writes and says stupid things almost continuously, many of them about himself. He's enthusiastic about what he does, but that has its limits, and his main aim is to promote himself and his various Citius enterprises. That would be great if he were better at it and he had decent help.
With few exceptions, the only Web sources offering consistently intelligent interviews, meaningful forecasts, or knowledgeable recaps are this site and The Morning Shakeout. For technical stuff, Alex Hutchinson. The rest of the regulars -- the swath of podcasters who jabber mainly about themselves and each other along with the Woke whiners and halfwits at the legacy pubs -- are in a clumsy race to outdo each other with their various forms of preening and ass-kissing disguised as media coverage. Either this comes at the cost of significant accuracy, or none of these actors would be competent even if they took their sweet time.
Shorter version: Are you really surprised?
The headline is rarely written by the person who wrote the article. That is usually a copy editor.
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