Simon Boch, Germany, 2:10 marathoner with 13:47/28:31 track speed.

The video is in German and essentially he said that he started out with soccer and then started running in his teens because his dad was quite keen on jogging. He said that he became disenchanted with soccer because in Germany the coaches are always yelling at the soccer players under their tutelage.

With regard to what he has in his fridge, he always says that he needs milk for his coffee and you will find a lot of green stuff in his fridge meaning vegetables.

He loves the Kenyan way of life and their ability to relax and become totally Zen in their away from running time.

Simon Boch, 2:10:48 marathoner, similar body shape and muscle composition with Yuki Kawauchi, the Japanese superstar. Short and super strong quads. Well configurated for the marathon.

Not the fastest guy on the block with his 345 1500 m (in 2017 at age 23 ) equal to a 403 mile but enough to reach a high level in Marathon, probably ultimate potential around 2:05 - 2:07.

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Simon Boch, 2:10:48 marathoner, similar body shape and muscle composition with Yuki Kawauchi, the Japanese superstar. Short and super strong quads. Well configurated for the marathon.

Not the fastest guy on the block with his 345 1500 m (in 2017 at age 23 ) equal to a 403 mile but enough to reach a high level in Marathon, probably ultimate potential around 2:05 - 2:07.

Yes, very Japanese-esq with his 5k/10k PB compared to his marathon PB. What's his training like?

very personable runner. i had the honor of standing next to him on the track in an unimportant race (3000m) years ago because he showed up surprisingly.

even in his youth he was considered to be an endurance talent and hardworking, better on long distances with a good kick but also prone to injury. he trains about 180-200km / week, in preparation for the marathon it was a few weeks 220km. doubles, of course. his coach encourages him to listen to the body. they consider a 2: 08-09 as a goal. that would be great, because things don't look too good in germany after arne gabius.

i think he's strong in the xc. long runs always on quite soft ground (paths, gravel, grass).

Hi Ghost,

You title is mis-leading.

His road 10k is 30sec faster than his dated, track pb.

He ran 28.01 10k a couple weeks before he ran 2:10 marathon.

Also he does not have a Nike sponsorship. Where did you get that info?

I hope he makes the German Olympic team for the marathon.

So he's basically Germany's Scott Fauble. He could probably go 2:07 if he's got super shoes, as could Fauble if Hoka accepted their EVA foam is jusnk and let him race properly

Thank you for setting the record straight including the fact that he’s not actually sponsored by Nike even though he seems to enjoy wearing their shoes.

Wrong assumption on my part and my bad. Nike - hopefully you will sponsor this guy.

On the subject of his 10 km road personal best what do you think is track person best for 10,000 m would be at this time? Do you think he could approach 28 flat on the track.

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Germany now has two very good marathon runners in Amanal Petros, the German record holder (born in Eritrea), achieved in Valencia December with 2:07:18, and Boch at 2:10.

Petros has very decent track times of 1322 and 2752 for 5000 and 10,000 m both achieved in 2019. Boch as correctly pointed out, improved recently on the road to 28 minutes flat which is very similar to the time that Petros achieved on the track.

Both these runners are young with Petros just 26 years old and Boch 27.

Petros at 1:81cm/61 kg, towers over the much shorter and stockier Boch, but both are very smooth runners and appear to be tailor made for the marathon distance.

Petros is facing issues at this time because most of his family are located in the Tigray region in Northern Ethiopia which has been cut off from the world.

Petros moved to Germany in 2012 and quickly integrated through sports and hopefully his family will be able to avail of the same situation in the future.

To the question of what is his 10,000m track potential given his 28.01 on the road.

We will find out in Mid June.

It's been many years since i've seen someone with the mental capacity to endure and sustain a brutal pace complete solo in tough conditions. This makes me confident he can give the 10,000m time a go.

Right now he recovers from the marathon then will focus on that sub 27:28.00 time.

As 23 eligible athletes already have the Olympic Q time. He will need it too and cannot rely on one of the current 4x world ranking open spots.

It could be that Richard Ringer does not better, Simon's time.

Amanal Petros, German Marathon record holder from Valencia 2020, 2:07:18. 26 years young, bright future potential.

The special thing is that Boch ran that 2:10 mostly solo in windy conditions. He had pacers until 12k or so but ran more than 25km alone.

jordanddonnelly wrote:

To the question of what is his 10,000m track potential given his 28.01 on the road.

We will find out in Mid June.

It's been many years since i've seen someone with the mental capacity to endure and sustain a brutal pace complete solo in tough conditions. This makes me confident he can give the 10,000m time a go.

Right now he recovers from the marathon then will focus on that sub 27:28.00 time.

As 23 eligible athletes already have the Olympic Q time. He will need it too and cannot rely on one of the current 4x world ranking open spots.

It could be that Richard Ringer does not better, Simon's time.

27:28.00 will be a very tough time to achieve for Boch, because that kind of speed is equivalent to around 1315 for 5000 m which I doubt he would be capable of. I see him more as a 2740 to 2750 runner, 5000 potential at 1323 to 1326.

Trotzdem viel Glück!

Boch is good but I think 23 year old Nils Voigt will be even better once he goes up to the full marathon.

Voigt has a 8:13 3000, & 13:57 5000, yet just ran a 1:01.35 half marathon beating Petros.

runderun wrote:

So he's basically Germany's Scott Fauble. He could probably go 2:07 if he's got super shoes, as could Fauble if Hoka accepted their EVA foam is jusnk and let him race properly

This. Or Hehir. Or _____. Nothing super unique on the profile, just someone who is succeeding at their favored event.

2:10 is great and I wish this guy the best, but is this thread and multiple-ghost-post-worthy?

Another Ghost1 hype thread that holds less water than he thinks

Yeah! How dare someone start a thread about an actual good runner on this message board.

Webb has a Keg wrote:

runderun wrote:

So he's basically Germany's Scott Fauble. He could probably go 2:07 if he's got super shoes, as could Fauble if Hoka accepted their EVA foam is jusnk and let him race properly

This. Or Hehir. Or _____. Nothing super unique on the profile, just someone who is succeeding at their favored event.

2:10 is great and I wish this guy the best, but is this thread and multiple-ghost-post-worthy?

Another Ghost1 hype thread that holds less water than he thinks

I wouldn’t say the hype is worthy from the stats, but having watched Boch in Dresden I think there is a lot of potential there. It was cold and windy. His pacer pulled out after 12km and he was on his own after that. I haven’t seen many performances as tough as that in recent times, it was properly inspiring to watch.

Another marathon build, better conditions, better competition and he’s easily running 2:07. A few years after that ... who knows? 26 is still very young by marathon standards.

Also, I love that he repped the club singlet in Dresden and tore all the pro runners decked out their sponsored kit to pieces.

You should watch Chris Thompson's win at the recent British marathon trials. 4 seconds slower than Boch and gutsy as hell. Let the leading pack go when they were running at 2:09 pace and gambled that they'd all blow up while still maintaining PB pace for himself and winning by over a minute. He has no further potential like Boch may have, but for guts, racing intelligence, and pure emotion, I haven't seen a better marathon in years

runderun wrote:

You should watch Chris Thompson's win at the recent British marathon trials. 4 seconds slower than Boch and gutsy as hell. Let the leading pack go when they were running at 2:09 pace and gambled that they'd all blow up while still maintaining PB pace for himself and winning by over a minute. He has no further potential like Boch may have, but for guts, racing intelligence, and pure emotion, I haven't seen a better marathon in years

You are right and I am very surprised that Thompson can run as well as he does with his body shape, which appears slightly bulky, and his bio mechanics which do not appear very smooth. This is not a criticism by the way but a tribute to his gutsiness as you well pointed out.

Thompson: Another surprise is that he could run so well at this stage in his career with over 20 years of hard running under his belt and a lot of trauma including injuries. Mind blowing.