Drew Hunter 3:57.31?

[3.1]Miles Davis wrote:

Dude's soloing time trials, cut him some slack. Not a person on this thread could solo a sub-4 , let alone in the middle of a pandemic.

Quenton Cassidy could

el bigote wrote:

This is just cringe city. Wow.

https://youtu.be/SPb_u3hSva4

I thought Tinman training was about running within yourself. Why are they suffering doing CV/threshold? They are definitely doing it wrong if that is the case.

Without access to Strava or Instagram, could someone post where in South Dakota this race took place and why?

All of the guys wear hats while they are inside.

Definitely hate the inside hat and hood look from Drew too.

LateRunnerShill wrote:

3:57, an OK run considering the heavy training block he’s in. .

If you followed him on Strava or Instagram you would know he is not doing any significant mileage..... and he admitted that himself the other day

KAV wrote:

LateRunnerShill wrote:

3:57, an OK run considering the heavy training block he’s in. .

If you followed him on Strava or Instagram you would know he is not doing any significant mileage..... and he admitted that himself the other day

Yes, of course I am playing a role, a troll if you will, to make fun of the people who always give excuses for a race performance not being better.

How does someone run a 3:57 mile off of 7 min/ mile junk runs and occasional uptempo long run? That doesn’t make sense, even for a talented runner.

One obvious option, Hunter logs his easy runs and low key workouts on Strava but leaves off serious tempos and workouts. That’s cool, but just wondering if this is common for pro runners to do?

He is just really fast. Talent always beats training.

PrZ wrote:

Ho Hum wrote:

I think he must have run on a flat indoor track or something -- the altitude conversion is only a second or so.

Orrrrr maybe he ran it on a flat outdoor track because it’s late May. Gotta love when posters act like they know more than everyone else, including the athletes and coaches. If there’s already a legitimate conversion in place, I’m not sure why or how you think otherwise.

Gotta love when people completely miss sarcasm.

Questions ??? wrote:

How does someone run a 3:57 mile off of 7 min/ mile junk runs and occasional uptempo long run? That doesn’t make sense, even for a talented runner.

One obvious option, Hunter logs his easy runs and low key workouts on Strava but leaves off serious tempos and workouts. That’s cool, but just wondering if this is common for pro runners to do?

Peter Snell would run around 4 flat or so for the mile off of just base mileage and that was on grass tracks.

brishen wrote:

jhlkjhlkjhjlkhkl wrote:

3600 ft has literally no physiological effect on the body compared to sea level.

The hell it doesn’t.

But it’s nowhere near the effect at 5,500’. I think barely sub-3:55 is fair, but that’s it.

very few indeed wrote:

Paul Bunyan wrote:

This would have been his senior year (4th year) in college, and he has a 1500m PR of 3:35, less than 1 second off the NCAA record.

Sure, he has benefited from being a pro, but with setbacks including serious injury last year and a cancelled season this year, it seems like he has progressed pretty well. How many people would leave college with PRs like this?

1:48

3:35

7:39

13:21

Very few ran times quite that fast. The 3k in particular is very good. Only Lalang really has significantly better times across the board (3:33, 7:36, 13:00). Knight has times of 3:36, 7:45 (indoors), and 13:17, which matches up quite well. Compared to Fisher, another high school star; Fisher ran 3:39, 7:42, and 13:29 in college, and I don't really know of anybody saying he hasn't progressed well.

Fisher hasn't progressed well. He was 13:30 as a freshman and a 3:59 HS miler lol

LateRunnerShill wrote:

KAV wrote:

If you followed him on Strava or Instagram you would know he is not doing any significant mileage..... and he admitted that himself the other day

Yes, of course I am playing a role, a troll if you will, to make fun of the people who always give excuses for a race performance not being better.

Whatever makes your day pal....

behind the wall of sleep wrote:

Questions ??? wrote:

How does someone run a 3:57 mile off of 7 min/ mile junk runs and occasional uptempo long run? That doesn’t make sense, even for a talented runner.

One obvious option, Hunter logs his easy runs and low key workouts on Strava but leaves off serious tempos and workouts. That’s cool, but just wondering if this is common for pro runners to do?

Peter Snell would run around 4 flat or so for the mile off of just base mileage and that was on grass tracks.

And some times closer to 4:10

TME Hater wrote:

I thought Tinman training was about running within yourself. Why are they suffering doing CV/threshold? They are definitely doing it wrong if that is the case.

I thought so too, but I think there are still supposed to be a couple tough workouts each week. And unless you injure yourself, you probably wont ruin training by going to the well, even if it means the next few days are easier.

Fisher didn't progress much in terms of times in college, but he's running with BTC, which had three guys, none of them named Jager, run 13 flat or better in a time trial last year, so you can bet that he is capable of running between 13:10 and 13:15 at the slowest now. If not, he wouldn't be able to train with anyone there.

zxczxcv wrote:

Fisher didn't progress much in terms of times in college, but he's running with BTC, which had three guys, none of them named Jager, run 13 flat or better in a time trial last year, so you can bet that he is capable of running between 13:10 and 13:15 at the slowest now. If not, he wouldn't be able to train with anyone there.

Or he is hurt. Training with guys 30s faster than you when your a pro athlete and already maxed out isn't always a great thing.

shootpost wrote:

zxczxcv wrote:

Fisher didn't progress much in terms of times in college, but he's running with BTC, which had three guys, none of them named Jager, run 13 flat or better in a time trial last year, so you can bet that he is capable of running between 13:10 and 13:15 at the slowest now. If not, he wouldn't be able to train with anyone there.

Or he is hurt. Training with guys 30s faster than you when your a pro athlete and already maxed out isn't always a great thing.

Already maxed out yeah...that's why he PR'd in the 3k (7:39 indoors) in his first race of his first season as a pro. But sure, when he runs 13:0x in a couple years, people will still criticize his progression, because hE wAs GoOd In HiGh ScHoOl

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