How does Hasay go from also ran in 10k to one of best US marathoners in history

HOW so paula? wrote:

How does someone who spent several years trying to master the 10k and was an also ran, go on to be amonst the greats in the half and marathon. SHe's equal to Goucher, Flanagan, Huddle and the like. All who ran sub 15 for 5k, 30 minutes and change for 10k.

Hasay barely qualified for the trials int he 5k. She barely ran sub 32 for 10k on the track last year.

And now she's running half marathons at her 10k (on the track) pace? A 2:23 at Boston with the only US women who raced faster on Boston being an Olympic champ, an olympic medalist, and last years 6th place finisher in the Olympics.

It defies logic.

Hasay's recent half and full marathon results are very good, but not so much that they were totally unexpected. Most people I know expected Jordon to do well in Prague and Boston. First off, AlSal only coaches athletes who have podium potential. Secondly, why is anyone surprised to see an athlete who have been successful at every level, move up to the marathon and become successful. Jordan has always demonstrated natural endurance, even as far back as high school, going out in XC races close to 5 minutes and being able to score points in multiple events while at Oregon and at age 22. She close to 32 minuets in her first 10K and 2 years ago, I watch her run 4 world class 10Ks in one month, which is amazing. Jordan's problem has never been endurance, she been injured on and off the last 2 years and her inability to handle a quick change of pace, which is obviously less of an issue in the longer race. Albeit, I think Jordan is leaving food on the table in the track 10K, I think she could better her current PR by a minute.

Btw, Joyciline Jepkosgei just set the half marathon WR and her track PRs are about the same as Jordans.

Hall ran what one 10k in his life on the track before moving up?

His 13:teens in college showed he was at least a 27:30 type in college. Jordan's 5k PR remains 15:28

The shoes gave Hasay a 4% bump but didn't given Galen a 4% bump?

HOW so paula? wrote:

How does someone who spent several years trying to master the 10k and was an also ran, go on to be amonst the greats in the half and marathon. SHe's equal to Goucher, Flanagan, Huddle and the like. All who ran sub 15 for 5k, 30 minutes and change for 10k.

Hasay barely qualified for the trials int he 5k. She barely ran sub 32 for 10k on the track last year.

And now she's running half marathons at her 10k (on the track) pace? A 2:23 at Boston with the only US women who raced faster on Boston being an Olympic champ, an olympic medalist, and last years 6th place finisher in the Olympics.

It defies logic.

You just insinuated that Jordan Hasay takes PED's. And your examples are incredibly weak! Most people in the coaching community knew that Jordan's best distance was the marathon. And everyone with any knowledge of the sport knows about her injuries, and realizes that her 10k times do not represent her potential at that distance or the marathon.

It is too bad you don't have to be accountable for your libel lies. You can just spew your lies without a shred of evidence, and then move on to another fake name. You suck!!

The question is, will she want to race at the World Championships in the Marathon, or go for it on the track?

OnePieceToe wrote:

The question is, will she want to race at the World Championships in the Marathon, or go for it on the track?

Although, AlSal and Jordan have indicted her career is on the roads now, it is hard to imagine not running a track 10K when you know you can run much faster than your current PRs. AlSal may be in favor of Jordan just focusing on the roads, because he doesn't see her making the podium in global championships, but, as an athlete, it is almost impossible to completely leave the track when you think you are leaving food on the table. I would be very surprised if I don't see Jordan in a track 10k this year and why not, I have seen quite a few athletes improve their track PRs coming off of marathon training.

Bringing her time all the way down from 74 mins to 64 mins in two years certainly doesn't raise an eyebrow. This is what Kenyan do after all.

Her marathon time indicates this distance offers her best chance for success at the World Champs. 2:23 is a great result and as others have mentioned the conditions weren't the best even on an aided course. She more than held her own against the African runners she will face at the World Champs. I wish her the best.

She dropped 11 pounds training for the THON and her body is perfect for it, she also has the best coaches in the world for her training.

Let's be real here, as much as people hate, Salazar is one of the best coaches on the planet for the THON'.

EPO, L carnitine, HGH, epinephrine, testoboost (wink, wink), thyroid and/or asthma meds, altitude tents, oh...and improved running form.

She didn't lose 10 pounds! She looks bigger than the skeleton days of indoors "15."

bottom line. wrote:

No one is questioning she would run sub 31 now.

The question is why did she improve so much?

And Sisson ran 15:12 for 5k indoors in 2015, before getting hurt, then 15:02 indoors this year.

Compare that to a maxed out 15:28 from Hasay who has tried to run fast over 5k (when healthy) for the past 4 years.

Who would you pick over half marathon before this year?

If Hasay was african under Sumgong's coach, we'd be screaming doper.

I definitely understand your point of view but a lot of times men and women her age make a huge breakthrough especially after coming back from injury. My perspective on running injuries is your body needing a break and I also feel when someone gets hurt, they were on the verge reaching a new level and body just needed a lil break. Every time I've gotten injured, I've come back better than before. It was either the rest my body needed, the cross training, or combination of both.

She's gonna be this runner for a long time, and whether it translate to the track or not, she's definitely the next great American road racer

Saw a few interviews of Jordan and her voice appears quite deep for a twenty-something non-smoker. Has her voice always been like this? Tren throat? What gives?

Jordan is 25 years old. She ran her 10k PR in 2014. 3 years ago. So she was 22. Which is young for a distance runner. Most get better after 24/25.

Since then she's had injuries and/or other issues keeping her from running a full season with opportunities to run a fast time.

I imagine her 10k PR will be much better if she races one again.

HOW so paula? wrote:

How does someone who spent several years trying to master the 10k and was an also ran, go on to be amonst the greats in the half and marathon.

She was previously lacking the long fast runs that she's been doing this year, and this is why she's running at a higher level than before.

Her weakness in the 5 and 10k was not due to lack of speed, but to lack of endurance.

HOW so paula? wrote:

To put it in perspective.

In her half marathon she came through 10k in 31:56.

She ran 31:59 at Stanford in perfect conditions last year. Her PR is 31:39 at stanford, in perfect conditions. She ran 31:46 with male pacers the whole way in another track 10k.

If she was african, we'd scream doping. How's she do it?

+1

Come on, we give sexy blonds a doping pass, heck some of the East Europeans (not Russians) are dirty but they don't get called out half as much.

NativeSon wrote:

bottom line. wrote:

No one is questioning she would run sub 31 now.

The question is why did she improve so much?

And Sisson ran 15:12 for 5k indoors in 2015, before getting hurt, then 15:02 indoors this year.

Compare that to a maxed out 15:28 from Hasay who has tried to run fast over 5k (when healthy) for the past 4 years.

Who would you pick over half marathon before this year?

If Hasay was african under Sumgong's coach, we'd be screaming doper.

This here ^ is a nugget!

Strangely we agree for once, guess the dodgy coach? Not Jama, not Rosa but A______ ______r

bottom line to it. wrote:

Hall ran what one 10k in his life on the track before moving up?

His 13:teens in college showed he was at least a 27:30 type in college. Jordan's 5k PR remains 15:28

The shoes gave Hasay a 4% bump but didn't given Galen a 4% bump?

No, he ran more than that. I'm positive he ran 10k at a championship meet I think USATF.

He got beaten by Rupp & Meb or Abdi by like 35 seconds though.

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Come on, we give sexy blonds a doping pass

Not to say she isn't attractive, but Hasay, with her Amish-like hair doesn't come off as sexy.

bottom line to it. wrote:

Hall ran what one 10k in his life on the track before moving up?

His 13:teens in college showed he was at least a 27:30 type in college. Jordan's 5k PR remains 15:28

don't b1tch about someone's times not adding up, and then make excuses for why someone else's times don't add up.