Ummmm. Jakob has run 3:43.73, so to run 3:45, while solid for an opener, is not exactly a sign that he is improving. It smells like stagnation to the intelligent.
Yared has run 3:43.97 and “only” managed 3:46, so I guess he’s stagnating as well? Or maybe it’s February and these guys are nowhere near their peak shape.
Odd that we have a potentially palpable refutation of you Jakob fanboys and yet you cannot see it. Let us see if Jakob can ever run faster than 3:26.73 and 7:17.55. I don’t see it, especially as the indoor tracks are so fast now.
Ha, "Jakob fanboys". Who the heck isn't a fan of Jakob? Who are YOU a fan of then
Honestly he’s scared. He could have raced the best in the world last week at Millrose but instead decided to hold what essentially is a time trial. If he continues to avoid racing like this he’s going to keep getting beat when it really counts like he has been.
Sure, fly about halfway around the world, risk getting sick with all the cold and flu going around, deal with time zone change, and be away from family longer.
I’d say he was smart to stay closer to home and prepare his way for later in the season.
Odd that we have a potentially palpable refutation of you Jakob fanboys and yet you cannot see it. Let us see if Jakob can ever run faster than 3:26.73 and 7:17.55. I don’t see it, especially as the indoor tracks are so fast now.
You will be right someday and then you can crow about it. Until then, you are wrong.
Jakob, at this time last year, was worse. Now he is better. That is the opposite of "being washed" or whatever people always say about him when he runs a world record...
Wasn’t the Milrose race paced as well, just as JI’s race? All of these non championship races are set at world record pace. Call them all time trials. Seems like he doing just fine.
He did pretty good winning both Tokyo and Paris in the 5. I think anyone that picks him apart should rethink.
I stopped taking indoors seriously when Yomif whoever ran 3:47 a while back. Indoor tracks are designed to have centripetal forces when you turn so it is really like running in a straight line. When the earth spins around the sun it's momentum is literally in a straight line, but gravity makes it keep turning in the direction of the sun while keeping the same distance away. That is how indoor is now. Indoor meant a lot more back in the Bekele track days when he ran his 2,000m indoor WR, which is more impressive, especially since he didn't have super spikes and bicarp
Honestly he’s scared. He could have raced the best in the world last week at Millrose but instead decided to hold what essentially is a time trial. If he continues to avoid racing like this he’s going to keep getting beat when it really counts like he has been.
Jakob is a time trial specialist. He is so good that he can sometimes win the championships, but he is not a great strategist, partly due to physical limitations. He is a great time trialer, as good as we have seen. He peaked last year, but you can see he is pretty close to last year. This is all in keeping with my opening post. He is not improving but he is damn good, as I have said.
You kinda refuted your thesis - because he's not the greatest tactician (pride cometh before the fall, yadda yadda) even if he's already maxed out his Vo2, strength, endurance, kick etc,he can still improve via tactics and mental prep. Also, it can take years to time one's seasonal peak with a race that has perfect weather conditions, track surface, drafting, not getting tangled in the competition, not being sick etc. Besides, even if he's peaked at the 15, he's not peaked for the 5/10 and beyond.
Some athletes say they never had a peak race, because getting all aspects maxed at the same time is nigh impossible. Ryan Hall is an example, his half was was an outstanding career peak, but he seemed to always underperform in the full.
I think many of us are SHOCKED, shocked I tell you, that Jakob is able to run 1.87 seconds faster in an indoor mile than Yomif Kejelcha, a 5000m, 10000m and half marathon stud. This blew me away. Like wow.
18 idiots agreed with you that beating Yomif was amazing. He also proved a thing or two to that Abdezzine Habz and Ethan Strand
Track fans are mainly swine, every so often the top elites do a serious indoor season to throw them a few pearls.
No way is 3:45 on a banked track equal to 3:26 outdoors. Debatable whether it's even worth sub 3:30.
Honestly he’s scared. He could have raced the best in the world last week at Millrose but instead decided to hold what essentially is a time trial. If he continues to avoid racing like this he’s going to keep getting beat when it really counts like he has been.
Sure, fly about halfway around the world, risk getting sick with all the cold and flu going around, deal with time zone change, and be away from family longer.
I’d say he was smart to stay closer to home and prepare his way for later in the season.
Honestly, the sickness part of this is underrated. USA Flu right now is INSANE. Cam Meyers fell ill the day after his Wannamaker mile. I dunno what is happening but look at our flu maps and the historical flu highs in articles and Jakob might've dodged a real bullet there.
I stopped taking indoors seriously when Yomif whoever ran 3:47 a while back. Indoor tracks are designed to have centripetal forces when you turn so it is really like running in a straight line. When the earth spins around the sun it's momentum is literally in a straight line, but gravity makes it keep turning in the direction of the sun while keeping the same distance away. That is how indoor is now. Indoor meant a lot more back in the Bekele track days when he ran his 2,000m indoor WR, which is more impressive, especially since he didn't have super spikes and bicarp
so you're right.
the rest of us, probably think nobody currently is blowing massive EPO out their gills,
and these latest times all considered are pretty darn good and entertaining.
front running that 5k, took the cake. my bones hurt thinking about it. that was an epic effort.
We all saw it. Jakob was unbelievably good. Jakob ran 7:17 and 3:26. Jakob has now peaked and we shall see an attempt to maintain for the next couple years followed by a slow decline. Enjoy it folks.
Based on similar posts here I would have thought he peaked in 2021. Or was it perhaps 2018?
Ummmm. Jakob has run 3:43.73, so to run 3:45, while solid for an opener, is not exactly a sign that he is improving. It smells like stagnation to the intelligent.
Sounds like you are using a strange metric to measure intelligence.
Ummmm. Jakob has run 3:43.73, so to run 3:45, while solid for an opener, is not exactly a sign that he is improving. It smells like stagnation to the intelligent.
Sounds like you are using a strange metric to measure intelligence.
Sounds like you are using a strange metric to measure intelligence.
Yes but sometimes the nose knows.
To continue your nose metaphor: I think your nose is stuffed because a 3:45 in February being solo the last 400+ meters is different than being pushed to 3:45 in late may.