No Ingebrigtsen will ever run sub 3:30!!!

Jakob is in his third very impressive year and it's been his best, so I wouldn't count him out yet. Although his best event in the future might prove to be the 5k.

Will be funny to see your apologize when both of them break 3.40 in the DL final in just two weeks.

They are training hard and was not letting up at all before this Paris meet.

Jakob is grumpy because coach and father Gjert insist on focusing on seasons mail goal.

Still they do 3.31. ...

In two years time, when Jakob is still only 20, he will dominate like no other middle distance runner.

Why is there a thead on Jager and the Ingebrigtsens ?

I'll wait...

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With the Olympics next year there is a chance of no really fast times. Potatoe Tim and Manangoi might not want to put it all out there in DL races.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Yes I'm trolling! But years ago I boldly predicted Evan Jäger would never break sub 8 after his fall in Paris, and with his recent injuries that looks to be proving accurate. He probably hates me for putting some sort of curse on him, but the fact is.

.... the fact is you dont even come up as a blip on Jagers radar.

A lot of people predicted that Jager would not run sub 8 after that race, and they’re probably right.

I don’t know about that, but they are no marathoners, like some think Jakob has any chance in something above 5k

Two completely different athletes in two completely different circumstances.

Jager was 26, in the prime of his career and in peak form. Perfectly paced race in perfect conditions and he fell over before he could break 8:00. He raced many times before and since and never got the same opportunity in the same form.

Jakob is 18 and has run low 3:30 twice and another few times run 3:31 in races of all mixed paces. He has at least 3 more years of maturation to go through and many more opportunities. Barring injury running sub 3:30 is very likely.

And let's not forget sub 8:00 is a lot less frequent than sub 3:30.

12 men have broken 8 all time but 31 have broken 3:30

You've been 'boldly predicting' for at least the last 2 years that Jakob is 'burnt out' and it's downhill all the way for him from here.

I will take that bet.

Jakob at 3:30.16 this year and Filip 3:30.82.

Each with other races run close to these seasonal bests.

Never heard of William?

And who knows if Gjerd is done already...

Jakob has improved by a sec this year, and both of the brothers has produced stable world-class results this season. J is 18 and Filip is 26 with sponsorships coming in hot, things are looking bright for them. I predict that Mo will make a comeback in 2021 to reclaim his European record...

Subway Surfers wrote:

With the Olympics next year there is a chance of no really fast times. Potatoe Tim and Manangoi might not want to put it all out there in DL races.

Interesting, how you and your buddy both spell Potato wrong...

Most runners won’t.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Teen phenoms get two great years. Like Mary Cain. Like Jim Ryun. Jakob has had two great years. Greater years? No. That's the curse of of teen-phenomhood. Not my fault!

Let the arguing commence.

Meseret Defar, Tirunesh Dibaba, and Lydia Cheromei were Teen Phenoms and kept going and got better, Heck Cheromei last year ran the fastest Marathon by a Women over 40. all 3 were World Class for 15-20 or more years, What if Jakob Ingebritsen is like them? Bernard Lagat though not a teen star had OVER 20 years of being World Class at the HIGHEST LEVEL.

On a totally different note, I wonder if Jakob will try to get in a fast Steeple? I think he has the POTENTIAL to go sub 3:30 for 1500, sub 7:30 for 3000,Sub 12:50 for 5000 and sub 8:00 for the Steeple. And in an interview about him being a pacer for Kipchoge in the sub 2 Challenge he said he would like to run the Marathon after his Track Career, His father said he can break an Hour in the Half Marathon (2 Years ago).

You neglected to name teen phenom, Mary Decker. I was going to call her an indoor stud as a teenager. I guess she was an indoor filly. Then she had that great 1983 World Championship as an adult. Was Decker on the sauce in 1983?

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Subway Surfers wrote:

With the Olympics next year there is a chance of no really fast times. Potatoe Tim and Manangoi might not want to put it all out there in DL races.

Interesting, how you and your buddy both spell Potato wrong...

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You have to give the runners in Paris some credit for double figure runners in 3:32 or better, including several 3:30 and low 3:31s, in a race without Cheruiyot to bring them below 2:50 at 1200m in a non-Monaco race. Usually, when they aren't running in Monaco and the best guy isn't there on the DL, the winning time is more like 3:32-33. It is not a good bet to say that Filip couldn't run two one-hundredths of a second faster tapered in Brussels or Zurich with perfect conditions and Tim running a 3:28 or 3:29, as I expect him to do, let alone to say that a fresh Jakob will not get another .17 this year or any year.

Next year, I fully expect a 3:28 from him. He's 18 and he's not looking close to cooked. Nor should he because Gjert's training does not have that effect. Sometimes they get injured but even Henrik after years of injuries, and seven years after a 5th place at the London Olympics, has run a 7:36 NR this year.

As for Jager, he has not been in his Paris form since then, and Jerry just does not learn from experience to race his athletes more often, as if runners can only run well at a championships and nowhere else in a calendar year. Yet, Jager has run 8 flat and 8:01 in the years since that race. And if he is healthy he might still do it if he gets another chance like that year where Jerry is forced to let him race shortly before his DL attempt. That year he had just gone through two tough steeples at U.S. champs in very hot weather the previous weekend. He then ran in Paris within a week of those races and was at his all-time best. Health and Jerry are the only things standing in the way of 7:58 right now.

Nor-way wrote:

Will be funny to see your apologize when both of them break 3.40 in the DL final in just two weeks.

Why should I apologize for that? It's exactly what I predicted, that final will be slow. Neither Zurich nor Brussels has produced a sub 3:30 in more than ten years!

Jakob actually does look cooked. In Paris he was nearly as gaunt as Filip! When that happens, you know a runner has peaked and any further improvements are nickels and dimes. It will be a loooong time till next season, and odds are high that this one's the peak.