No shame in that but Jakob is turning 22 in a week and I see him limited in his turnover which means he will likely not run faster at 1500m than he has. Then he will probably continue to be a sub 13 and sub 27 man who occasionally wins a global championship for a few more years. This is his ceiling, so best possible personal bests would be 12:40 and 26:25. A pretty good career one might say.
* There are only 168 hours in a week. The more effort J.I. puts into 5000m & 10000m, the weaker he will be in international championship 1500m races. J.I. will continue to be able race glorified 3:29.xx 1500m TT, but 10000m training is at the expensive of 800m training. Some 800m-type training is necessary for international championship 1500m races.
* There are only 168 hours in a week. The more effort J.I. puts into 5000m & 10000m, the weaker he will be in international championship 1500m races. J.I. will continue to be able race glorified 3:29.xx 1500m TT, but 10000m training is at the expensive of 800m training. Some 800m-type training is necessary for international championship 1500m races.
You might be correct. I was mentioning his ceiling at 5 and 10 but very few brush up against their ceiling. Your other thoughts are valid.
No shame in that but Jakob is turning 22 in a week and I see him limited in his turnover which means he will likely not run faster at 1500m than he has. Then he will probably continue to be a sub 13 and sub 27 man who occasionally wins a global championship for a few more years. This is his ceiling, so best possible personal bests would be 12:40 and 26:25. A pretty good career one might say.
Ha ha ha, and you finish your career as a 0/10 troll.
* There are only 168 hours in a week. The more effort J.I. puts into 5000m & 10000m, the weaker he will be in international championship 1500m races. J.I. will continue to be able race glorified 3:29.xx 1500m TT, but 10000m training is at the expensive of 800m training. Some 800m-type training is necessary for international championship 1500m races.
Sub 12:42.5 would be a great and interesting bet. He should be capable soon (if he already isn't) but really needs it to line up just right with pacing, weather, and other training/events not getting in the way. Barega's top two times are 12:43 then a big gap up to 12:49. Just because you CAN doesn't you mean WILL. Someone please fund a betting pool for this!!
I feel Jakob has a similar skill set to Daniel Komen. Very good aerobic power which makes him really good at 1500-5k. I see Jakob being better at the 10k than the 1500m medal wise but will never really concentrate on 10k except for championship and qualifying standards.
* There are only 168 hours in a week. The more effort J.I. puts into 5000m & 10000m, the weaker he will be in international championship 1500m races. J.I. will continue to be able race glorified 3:29.xx 1500m TT, but 10000m training is at the expensive of 800m training. Some 800m-type training is necessary for international championship 1500m races.
Sub 12:42.5 would be a great and interesting bet. He should be capable soon (if he already isn't) but really needs it to line up just right with pacing, weather, and other training/events not getting in the way. Barega's top two times are 12:43 then a big gap up to 12:49. Just because you CAN doesn't you mean WILL. Someone please fund a betting pool for this!!
26:40 is waaaay easier than 12:42.5
Who are we communicating about? Are we communicating about you or J.I? Did I state 26:40 and 12:42.5 are equivalent? Get back to me when you have proven me incorrect.
I feel Jakob has a similar skill set to Daniel Komen. Very good aerobic power which makes him really good at 1500-5k. I see Jakob being better at the 10k than the 1500m medal wise but will never really concentrate on 10k except for championship and qualifying standards.
Interesting comparison. DK never ran a 10000m when he was in peak form so it is difficult to ascertain what he would have done. We have a few clues though, the main one being 12:39, which one simply cannot do without being able to run an incredible 10000m. Then there is the fact that DK won a silver medal in the World Junior Cross Country Championships, whereas years later Jakob managed to get 12th place. But both of them seem to be able to get in a rhythm and just go, without necessarily having that blistering kick one would witness in some other elites.
Regarding that 1994 World Junior Cross Country Championships, Philip Mosima ran 24:15, DK ran 24:17, and then 3rd was 24:46. Mosima actually won the Junior race twice, but other than that he did not do much except a 12:53 in Rome in 1996.
If you watch this video from roughly 4:30 to 7:10 you will get to see the young Daniel Komen as he begins to show that he is a great talent. However nobody probably would have picked him as the one to run 7:20 based on this race. This was Mosima winning his 2nd junior race after having won in 1993.
Really dumb to believe Jakob has hit his peak just because he didn't improve his 1500m time in a year when he doubled at two major championships and there was no Monaco 1500m.
Really dumb to believe Jakob has hit his peak just because he didn't improve his 1500m time in a year when he doubled at two major championships and there was no Monaco 1500m.
Will run sub 3:28 at Monaco next year for sure.
This subject is likely a little bit complicated for you because it is not BLACK and WHITE. Jakob could have run under 3:28 this year. This is obvious. So although he finishes his career as a 3:28.32 runner, this was not his absolute ceiling. Jakob is likely going to continue to be a medal contender at whatever he chooses from 1500m, 5000m or even 10000m. However there are many factors at play which are likely to conspire against a 3:27 in the future, including his expected focus on global championships and his lack of 1:44 speed, in addition to he is getting older and has been training for a very long time. It also does not help that nobody can clearly push him in a time trial 3:27 race right now. We shall see.
No shame in that but Jakob is turning 22 in a week and I see him limited in his turnover which means he will likely not run faster at 1500m than he has. Then he will probably continue to be a sub 13 and sub 27 man who occasionally wins a global championship for a few more years. This is his ceiling, so best possible personal bests would be 12:40 and 26:25. A pretty good career one might say.
I will be back here to say "Naaaaade goes home devastated!" when Jakob is still running <=3:30 at 30 yo.
No shame in that but Jakob is turning 22 in a week and I see him limited in his turnover which means he will likely not run faster at 1500m than he has. Then he will probably continue to be a sub 13 and sub 27 man who occasionally wins a global championship for a few more years. This is his ceiling, so best possible personal bests would be 12:40 and 26:25. A pretty good career one might say.
I will be back here to say "Naaaaade goes home devastated!" when Jakob is still running <=3:30 at 30 yo.
But of course if Jakob is still running sub 3:30 at age 30, although it would surprise me slightly, it would not refute anything I have predicted.
Really dumb to believe Jakob has hit his peak just because he didn't improve his 1500m time in a year when he doubled at two major championships and there was no Monaco 1500m.
Will run sub 3:28 at Monaco next year for sure.
This subject is likely a little bit complicated for you because it is not BLACK and WHITE. Jakob could have run under 3:28 this year. This is obvious. So although he finishes his career as a 3:28.32 runner, this was not his absolute ceiling. Jakob is likely going to continue to be a medal contender at whatever he chooses from 1500m, 5000m or even 10000m. However there are many factors at play which are likely to conspire against a 3:27 in the future, including his expected focus on global championships and his lack of 1:44 speed, in addition to he is getting older and has been training for a very long time. It also does not help that nobody can clearly push him in a time trial 3:27 race right now. We shall see.
Jesus, you even have to play the race card in a simple discussion as to whether Jakob has peaked or not? Don't you honestly think racism is a serious issue that shouldn't be trivialized just to score points on a freaking running forum?
This subject is likely a little bit complicated for you because it is not BLACK and WHITE. Jakob could have run under 3:28 this year. This is obvious. So although he finishes his career as a 3:28.32 runner, this was not his absolute ceiling. Jakob is likely going to continue to be a medal contender at whatever he chooses from 1500m, 5000m or even 10000m. However there are many factors at play which are likely to conspire against a 3:27 in the future, including his expected focus on global championships and his lack of 1:44 speed, in addition to he is getting older and has been training for a very long time. It also does not help that nobody can clearly push him in a time trial 3:27 race right now. We shall see.
Jesus, you even have to play the race card in a simple discussion as to whether Jakob has peaked or not? Don't you honestly think racism is a serious issue that shouldn't be trivialized just to score points on a freaking running forum?
You need to educate yourself. When someone says something is not black and white, it has a different meaning than race. Please use google or phone a friend to use this as an opportunity to learn something.