Jakob Ingebrintsen has no road to Olympic victory

Many great runners will never win a medal at Olympics/Wch.

People are fascinated with Jakob I think because he is a white man running very fast at a young age.

I can see him setting some Euro records, and he hopefully has a long career ahead of him, so I can see him getting a medal at some point. I mean, he has probably 10 years ahead of him where he can be relevant on the track. Right now, 1500/5000, down the road, 10000.

-PEAK WHEN IT COUNTS!

-They don’t pass out medals based on prs

-They don’t pass out medals before the games

-YOU HAVE TO DO IT ON THE DAY!

It's hard to disagree after he o ly ran 1:46 last week.

It's not as if he can get much faster now he's nearing retirement at 19.

The OP even forgot to mention that Brazier will crush everybody in the 1500 in Tokyo, including Tim..Three days after breaking the 800m WR.

He jogged 3:36 dudes.

Maybe an Olympic gold in the 1500 or 5000 might be tough to attain, but absolutely see him medaling at some point in the Olympics. Hell, look at Rupp. Prior to 2011 or so he didn't have very good wheels for the finishing kick, but he figured it out and was one of the best kickers out there in 2012. Jakob could attain similar I think.

He can run the steeple

Oh Please wrote:

Maybe an Olympic gold in the 1500 or 5000 might be tough to attain, but absolutely see him medaling at some point in the Olympics. Hell, look at Rupp. Prior to 2011 or so he didn't have very good wheels for the finishing kick, but he figured it out and was one of the best kickers out there in 2012. Jakob could attain similar I think.

For sure.

If Willis and Rupp can get medals, Jakob can. He is even more talented. Obviously he is not a favorite to win anything yet, with Barega, Manangoi, Timmy C, etc on tap. But I think he’ll nab a medal someday—maybe never a gold.

birdbeard wrote:

Oh Please wrote:

Maybe an Olympic gold in the 1500 or 5000 might be tough to attain, but absolutely see him medaling at some point in the Olympics. Hell, look at Rupp. Prior to 2011 or so he didn't have very good wheels for the finishing kick, but he figured it out and was one of the best kickers out there in 2012. Jakob could attain similar I think.

For sure.

If Willis and Rupp can get medals, Jakob can. He is even more talented. Obviously he is not a favorite to win anything yet, with Barega, Manangoi, Timmy C, etc on tap. But I think he’ll nab a medal someday—maybe never a gold.

How many would have ever predicted Centrowitz to win Olympic gold? Anything is possible.

Classify this in the 'water is wet' news.

Why do you even care who wins the olympics? It doesn't prove who's the best runner. It's just a relic of an ancient greek ritual that was more about pederasty than sports.

Like most Europeans, Jakob has a much easier road than his rivals because he faces zero competition getting on the team in his chosen events. The best Kenyans get shut out all the time, either by decision or beaten at the trials.

I think the Kenyans also get forced to throw big races (e.g. Kiprop 2016) but that's for another thread.

The one thing that the OP missed was that JI is one of a trio, that does have potential to help him.

Everyone is discounting the possibility that the Coronavirus rips through Africa, impacting training while the rest of the world recovers.

Subway Surfers wrote:

Everyone is discounting the possibility that the Coronavirus rips through Africa, impacting training while the rest of the world recovers.

It's affecting training in Kenya, but hardly anything's changed in Ethiopia. The Ethiopians will be out in full force.

It's incredible how fast letsrun can move from being blown away by a young athlete to being unimpressed and dismissive.

By the time he was 18 last year, he had already run 3:30-3:31 more times (6) than Centro has in his long career, and was clearly competing with the best 1500m runner in the world in fast races. He ran a 5k PR was 35 seconds faster than Rupp ran as an 18 year old. Everything he does is completely mind-blowing, and he's doing it at an age when most American prodigies are concerned about qualifying for NCAAs for the first time. And for all we know he has another 15 years of competing at a high level and pursuing gold medals ahead of him. Yet in our relentless drive to diminish the world's greatest athletes, we have already written him off as a gold medal contender. Incredible.

Hardloper wrote:

He can run the steeple

+1

He and Evan

hypoxic bliss wrote:

birdbeard wrote:

For sure.

If Willis and Rupp can get medals, Jakob can. He is even more talented. Obviously he is not a favorite to win anything yet, with Barega, Manangoi, Timmy C, etc on tap. But I think he’ll nab a medal someday—maybe never a gold.

How many would have ever predicted Centrowitz to win Olympic gold? Anything is possible.

Centro was my first thought too...

Paul Bunyan wrote:

It's incredible how fast letsrun can move from being blown away by a young athlete to being unimpressed and dismissive.

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You mean how one or two people on a forum with thousands can do this.

Jakob definitely has chances.

He's only 19yo.

Even if he peaks very early because of the harsh training regime he got since he's a kid, he will still improve until 21-22 yo IMO. He still has at least 2 full years of improvement.

He ran 13:02 in a championship race. This same Jakob in the BTC 5000m with all the pacers, and manufactured conditions, would have ran 12:54.

Now I think he improved, he would have finished with 2-3 seconds of Ahmed, probably around 12:49-12:50.

Luv2Run wrote:

Paul Bunyan wrote:

It's incredible how fast letsrun can move from being blown away by a young athlete to being unimpressed and dismissive.

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You mean how one or two people on a forum with thousands can do this.

Well, I don't think we can know how many people it is, but the negative voices usually seem to be louder than the positive ones, unless it's the day immediately after an amazing performance.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Why do you even care who wins the olympics? It doesn't prove who's the best runner. It's just a relic of an ancient greek ritual that was more about pederasty than sports.

Like most Europeans, Jakob has a much easier road than his rivals because he faces zero competition getting on the team in his chosen events. The best Kenyans get shut out all the time, either by decision or beaten at the trials.

I think the Kenyans also get forced to throw big races (e.g. Kiprop 2016) but that's for another thread.

Every runner wants to win an Olympic medal and the final is the race that defines a career. It's a moot point because of the PED bust, but when I think of Kiorop's career it will be of him flailing in the 2016 1500. There isn't a single runner that wouldn't trade a WR for an Olympic Gold. John Walker was the first to break 3:50, but he said he's proudest of his 1500 Gold in Montreal.

Have TTs replaced the Olympics? Or the WCs, even though there were 1,000 (I looked it up) paying customerd in attendance.

Centrowitz's Gold Medal is a huge deal and the rest of us are not worthy,

Jacob Ingebrintsen's path to an Olympic &/or W.C. medal is the same path as Ian Stewart's path, Klaus-Peter Hildenbrand's path, Paul Heinz Wellman's path, Stephen Kipkorir's path and L Manzano's path to an Olympic &/or W.C. path to a medal. If J. Ingebrintsen attempts to take the lead at anytime over the final 700m of a championship 5000m race, he'll end up sans medal. J. Ing. needs to race shortest distance possible in lane one, stay in 5th place and pick up the pieces on homestretch, final 100m.