Cancer experts - Don't eat meet, drink booze or actually anything but water and maybe you'll have a chance

Deer Rojo

Meet is bad for you. Particularly meet from a dear.

Cutting back on red meat is an easy way to lose weight.

Don't eat good things because it gives cancer, don't do booze, don't fsck because it gives AIDS, don't run trails because of bears and pumas, avoid going out in winter to avoid flu.

You'll live until you are 126 years old and die of boredom.

For someone truly aware of the wonders of being alive and of the life around them, processed foods, booze, and fsck'ing are nothing but short-lived impulses made insignificant by everyday life experiences.

Don't believe a word of any organization claiming to represent all of humanity. The tell is that they'll include words like "World" in their name.

intenserunner wrote:

For someone truly aware of the wonders of being alive and of the life around them, processed foods, booze, and fsck'ing are nothing but short-lived impulses made insignificant by everyday life experiences.

Are you Naked and Afraid ?

I'll cut out the processed foods but some booty and chianti is worth giving up a few years in a wheelchair in a nursing home or worse .

Ascetic wrote:

intenserunner wrote:

For someone truly aware of the wonders of being alive and of the life around them, processed foods, booze, and fsck'ing are nothing but short-lived impulses made insignificant by everyday life experiences.

Are you Naked and Afraid ?

I'll cut out the processed foods but some booty and chianti is worth giving up a few years in a wheelchair in a nursing home or worse .

I was going to post pretty much exactly that, but you beat me to it.

Well, almost the same. I probably wouldn't have specified chianti.

There’s no way I’m giving up hamburgers. There’s nothing better than a grilled thick medium rare burger on a Saturday night after a long run.

intenserunner wrote:

For someone truly aware of the wonders of being alive and of the life around them, processed foods, booze, and fsck'ing are nothing but short-lived impulses made insignificant by everyday life experiences.

Total BS. Processed foods are awesome, to say nothing of booze and fsck'ing.

Cancer is the ultimate failure mode of humans. The only way to avoid it is to die before you get cancer. If you live long enough you will get cancer whether from the single ray of sunlight you walk through or the bluetooth on your phone. If you followed all of these guidelines maybe you could make it to 175yo without it, IF something else doesnt get you first. Smoking etc brings that number waaaaay down To the point it not worth it for most people. If eating meet brings my expected cancer age from 150 to 125, I'll live - or rather still probably die first.

How you got into Harvard with that level of reading comprehension and writing ability is puzzling.

Hangry wrote:

There’s no way I’m giving up hamburgers. There’s nothing better than a grilled thick medium rare burger on a Saturday night after a long run.

I think the article is talking about Processed meats.

Oscar mayer wrote:

Hangry wrote:

There’s no way I’m giving up hamburgers. There’s nothing better than a grilled thick medium rare burger on a Saturday night after a long run.

I think the article is talking about Processed meats.

Presumably there's some bacon on and/or in that burger. Otherwise, WTF is the point?

I kind of agree with rojo

Is not a life worth living

You don't get sick in the winter from going outside, you get side because you spend too much time inside with the windows closed.

It's one thing to concede that you like the taste of unhealthy foods or that you only care so much about your health, but it's another thing to try and discredit the information just because you want to feel better about your choice to eat unhealthy foods.

What a lot of people need to understand is that it's not just processed meats that are bad for you, but just about any meat you cook. Cooking meat can easily create transfats and charring. The transfat is terrible for your heart and the charring produces carcinogens. You're improving the quality of the meat if you can get it organically grass-fed and free roaming, but you're still making it quite unnatural when you cook it. It's very, very difficult in the modern day to eat meat in a manner that does not contribute to cumulative health risks.

As a runner you should be concerned about boozing. Admittedly, I had several beers yesterday at a concert, and do not pretend to piously lead by example. But booze poisons your liver and your liver is responsible for making your red blood cells. Boozing can basically retard your red blood cells for a day or two. Yeah, you'll generally get over it, but it is a setback and maybe some day your liver will sooner have tiny malfunctions on the cellular level hastened by a tendency to booze once in a while.

Most reasonable people aren't going to give up a few vices if it's worth a 1% savings on longevity, but that's not really how the averaged statistics work. You could be the guy whose cells start dividing malignantly 20 years before it should have been a real threat all because of some freak thing that happened after loading up on a food that was colored brown using caramel coloring (carcinogen). You could be the person who gets dementia super early because the monosodium glutamate in your Doritos eeked into your bloodstream to the brain and ran wild. Or you could be the totally healthy guy who just has one cell randomly go haywire and it's curtains. But if you pay attention to health and improve your odds you could see real improvement; this would be particularly observable across a large public health demographic and is why parts of Europe are seeing improved health outcomes. Pockets of should-be-educated Americans are seeing worse health outcomes precisely because they read articles like these and try to deny the science or minimalize the impact.

"Dont eat,meet, drink booze."

no food, no socializing, no beer.

average person won't last 2 weeks on that diet

no thanks