Tell a story of the worst thing the football program did to your team.

Caused our nationally ranked men’s cross-country team (and distance centric track team) to be cut. B@stards.

I got beamed in the head by the quarterback of our school's football team. Knocked me down and the worst part was my crush saw the whole thing!

In highschool- took time out from practice to cheer me on for home XC meet.

In college- provided all-conference sprinters and jumpers for track on football scholarship so mediocre distance guys could get half rides.

Mountaineers wrote:

Caused our nationally ranked men’s cross-country team (and distance centric track team) to be cut. B@stards.

Yes, agreed. It's not Title IX that causes college to lose running programs. We need to wake up and realize that it's King Football and Duke Basketball that are better funded in many cases than professional teams that are shutting down Men's Cross Country, Men's Indoor Track & Field, and Men's Outdoor Track & Field.

In fact all minor college men's sports need to fight the ROYAL TWO before it's too late.

(Yes indeed TCU has beach volleyball for women, but it's because of their monstrous football team with about 110 players and 26 coaches that caused that, and may eventually lead to the demise of the LRC-mentioned poor men's teams. Do not blame Title IX for that one!)

Hail to Miruts Yifter 4127 wrote:

Mountaineers wrote:

Caused our nationally ranked men’s cross-country team (and distance centric track team) to be cut. B@stards.

Yes, agreed. It's not Title IX that causes college to lose running programs. We need to wake up and realize that it's King Football and Duke Basketball that are better funded in many cases than professional teams that are shutting down Men's Cross Country, Men's Indoor Track & Field, and Men's Outdoor Track & Field.

In fact all minor college men's sports need to fight the ROYAL TWO before it's too late.

(Yes indeed TCU has beach volleyball for women, but it's because of their monstrous football team with about 110 players and 26 coaches that caused that, and may eventually lead to the demise of the LRC-mentioned poor men's teams. Do not blame Title IX for that one!)

Do away with college athletics and have strictly club sports. Waste of tax dollars.

+100

End college sports wrote:

Hail to Miruts Yifter 4127 wrote:

Yes, agreed. It's not Title IX that causes college to lose running programs. We need to wake up and realize that it's King Football and Duke Basketball that are better funded in many cases than professional teams that are shutting down Men's Cross Country, Men's Indoor Track & Field, and Men's Outdoor Track & Field.

In fact all minor college men's sports need to fight the ROYAL TWO before it's too late.

(Yes indeed TCU has beach volleyball for women, but it's because of their monstrous football team with about 110 players and 26 coaches that caused that, and may eventually lead to the demise of the LRC-mentioned poor men's teams. Do not blame Title IX for that one!)

Do away with college athletics and have strictly club sports. Waste of tax dollars.

Okay maybe but what is your story?

"Yes indeed TCU has beach volleyball for women"

pics?

One of my brothers and I played HS football under a respected coach who got good results with limited population and resources.

The school administration essentially gave him the job of girls' track coach; my sister was a sophomore on the team his first year. He seemed to have an anti-Midas touch, given the state of the program he inherited. Much of it stemmed from mis-application of 1960s-70s football coaching attitudes and techniques.

It made for interesting family discussions, with my sister decrying the coach (usually with good reason) and my brother and me playing devil's advocate (often to ridiculous extremes, e.g. "Hey! 'Carioca' run drills helped us win a State championship. You need to them, too!")

Hail to Miruts Yifter 4127 wrote:

Mountaineers wrote:

Caused our nationally ranked men’s cross-country team (and distance centric track team) to be cut. B@stards.

Yes, agreed. It's not Title IX that causes college to lose running programs. We need to wake up and realize that it's King Football and Duke Basketball that are better funded in many cases than professional teams that are shutting down Men's Cross Country, Men's Indoor Track & Field, and Men's Outdoor Track & Field.

In fact all minor college men's sports need to fight the ROYAL TWO before it's too late.

(Yes indeed TCU has beach volleyball for women, but it's because of their monstrous football team with about 110 players and 26 coaches that caused that, and may eventually lead to the demise of the LRC-mentioned poor men's teams. Do not blame Title IX for that one!)

Can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but in case you aren't, college football and basketball is literally the only reason non-revenue sports like XC can exist at a national level in the first place.

Quit trying to conflate the issue by bringing in specific schools that don't support anyone's point. King Football is Division 3 so its not really germane:

http://www.kingscollegeathletics.com/index.aspx?path=football

And while Duke baseball is Division 1 its not funded better than any professional team:

http://www.goduke.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPID=1850

Nah. Most universities with big-time football lose money you know.

While we were at practice our football team took all our clothes out of our lockers, but them in a pile in the shower and pissed and shat all over them.

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In highschool- took time out from practice to cheer me on for home XC meet.

In college- provided all-conference sprinters and jumpers for track on football scholarship so mediocre distance guys could get half rides.

This. Further, sounds like some people on this thread don't have a backbone.

E. Bonix wrote:

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Can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but in case you aren't, college football and basketball is literally the only reason non-revenue sports like XC can exist at a national level in the first place.

Nah. Most universities with big-time football lose money you know.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/sports/wp/2015/11/23/running-up-the-bills/?utm_term=.330d116e63f8

They'd lose a lot more money if not for the football and basketball teams. I went to Michigan which is one of the 20 or so schools in the black on athletics, and that's purely because of football, men's basketball, and hockey. That powers the entire athletic department. Even for schools that are losing money on athletics, football brings in cash that severely dampens the capital hit from athletics to the point where it can be covered by donations or small student fees.

XC is a nothing sport in the grand scheme of college athletics. It's unfortunate but true. If you didn't have the major revenue drivers bringing in fans, Nike deals, and TV revenue that allows for huge conference payouts, sports like XC simply would not exist at the collegiate level.

Oh it was one of the most bad moments of my life. I remember the day clearly. It was cold, and I don't mean snowy mountain Wyoming cold, it was colder then that. We were going to the State finals(we lost as you can imagine this is going). After the first half our couch was no where in site. We couldn't even get into our locker room, because he had left with out the key. It was miserable. Our caption is a good motivation, so he told us that we can get on with it, and still win. We were an embarrassment. I felt sick. We all got colds because we had to get home in our dirty wet cold gere, to have showers. Horrible organisation. A few days later we were told by the leader that he is sorry for our trouble, but he doesn't know where the couch is, but we will find a replacement next year.

yeah, and.... wrote:

XC is a nothing sport in the grand scheme of college athletics. It's unfortunate but true. If you didn't have the major revenue drivers bringing in fans, Nike deals, and TV revenue that allows for huge conference payouts, sports like XC simply would not exist at the collegiate level.

Well that's not true. Middlebury College offers 31 varsity sports, but Clemson only 17. D-I football destroys athletic diversity.

E. Bonix wrote:

yeah, and.... wrote:

XC is a nothing sport in the grand scheme of college athletics. It's unfortunate but true. If you didn't have the major revenue drivers bringing in fans, Nike deals, and TV revenue that allows for huge conference payouts, sports like XC simply would not exist at the collegiate level.

Well that's not true. Middlebury College offers 31 varsity sports, but Clemson only 17. D-I football destroys athletic diversity.

You're comparing Clemson to a high academic D3 school. That means nothing.

Not apt wrote:

E. Bonix wrote:

Well that's not true. Middlebury College offers 31 varsity sports, but Clemson only 17. D-I football destroys athletic diversity.

You're comparing Clemson to a high academic D3 school. That means nothing.

It means everything about the corrosive influence of sustaining today's D-I football programs.