Why don't other athletes ever sue dopers?

Because the cost of a lawsuit they would probably lose, if there is standing, is an easy six-figures.

And then there's the problem of angering the federation because the clean athlete is branded a sore loser.

Meanwhile, the winning athlete is probably paying bribes to never test positive.

For one thing, winning a lawsuit and actually getting the money are two separate challenges. A judge can tell me that I'm owed $3 million, but there are rules about what assets can be taken and what earnings can be garnished to pay off this judgement. The other guy probably has little earning potential after being busted, so my $3m court victory probably turns into less than a thousand dollars per month trickling in. At that rate, just paying back my own legal fees is going to take quite a while.

So then there's really no incentive to not dope then, right? Just load up on EPO, win some big races, pocket some dough. If you get caught afterwards, who cares? You still get to keep your money.

the real deal wrote:

So then there's really no incentive to not dope then, right? Just load up on EPO, win some big races, pocket some dough. If you get caught afterwards, who cares? You still get to keep your money.

Yes. You need a complicit federation though. They need to ignore positives/suspicious blood profiles one way or another. There appear to be many ways this is done.

Maybe because the person who gets bumped up is also a cheater? Well, it's a matter of percentages of them , we know that.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

the real deal wrote:

So then there's really no incentive to not dope then, right? Just load up on EPO, win some big races, pocket some dough. If you get caught afterwards, who cares? You still get to keep your money.

Yes. You need a complicit federation though. They need to ignore positives/suspicious blood profiles one way or another. There appear to be many ways this is done.

This why you just stay in the grey area. That's where the winners are. Best of both worlds.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Because the cost of a lawsuit they would probably lose, if there is standing, is an easy six-figures.

And then there's the problem of angering the federation because the clean athlete is branded a sore loser.

Meanwhile, the winning athlete is probably paying bribes to never test positive.

"Branded a sore loser?" Sure, and some of these career dopers are making out like bandits😠. The next thing you know the dopers will be saying something like "doping isn't everything, it's the only thing." 😄

EVERYONE IN OLYMPIC TRACK AND FIELD IS DOPING

They all dope wrote:

EVERYONE IN OLYMPIC TRACK AND FIELD IS DOPING

"EVERYONE???" Are you sure that you didn't have dream about this and now you think it's a fact?😄

Not Buying It wrote:

They all dope wrote:

EVERYONE IN OLYMPIC TRACK AND FIELD IS DOPING

"EVERYONE???" Are you sure that you didn't have dream about this and now you think it's a fact?😄

YES, I'M 100% POSITIVE

Dibaba is no defendant!

They all dope wrote:

Not Buying It wrote:

"EVERYONE???" Are you sure that you didn't have dream about this and now you think it's a fact?😄

YES, I'M 100% POSITIVE

If you're 100% positive that everyone is doping then I'm going to quit watching...period! Instead, I'll start watching a cleaner sport like WWE wrestling 😄.

You basically have to be a Nike-sponsored athlete. Even if you test positive, particularly if you are a star, the swoosh will protect you by paying off the right people.

sue deep pockets wrote:

For one thing, winning a lawsuit and actually getting the money are two separate challenges. A judge can tell me that I'm owed $3 million, but there are rules about what assets can be taken and what earnings can be garnished to pay off this judgement. The other guy probably has little earning potential after being busted, so my $3m court victory probably turns into less than a thousand dollars per month trickling in. At that rate, just paying back my own legal fees is going to take quite a while.

Yes, and this isn't even beginning to get into the difficulties with jurisdiction, service, and attaching assets in other countries...

This sort of lawsuit is a theoretical possibility if the two athletes live in the same country

Les wrote:

You basically have to be a Nike-sponsored athlete. Even if you test positive, particularly if you are a star, the swoosh will protect you by paying off the right people.

Baloney. Where are the whistleblowers? Surely, someone would have come forward by now if Nike is involved in that kind of corruption. The whistleblower of the Russian debacle (Stepanova) came out and she even had to flee the country! Everyone loves a good conspiracy theory and you're casting aspersions without any proof 😕.