Sad News: Oldest women's finisher at 2013 New York City Marathon, Joy Johnson, dies day after race at 86

skinny guy wrote:

Where is this research that you speak of?

And no, you will not 'sometimes die'. You will, in fact, eventually die regardless of what you do.

Hats off to the lady for not rotting away on the couch.

You really don't want someone like me to get started on this. But I'll start with this one, which was presented at the American Heart Association meeting 3 years ago:

A subgroup of the study comprised 49 marathon runners (14.97±3.67 hours/week for 11.6±9.1 years) (42 males, mean age: 38±9yrs) and 46 matched controls (aerobic exercise less than 3 hours/week), (40 males, mean age: 37±5yrs).

Marathon runners had significantly higher systolic, diastolic, pulse (aortic and brachial) and mean pressures compared to controls (p less than 0.05 for all).

http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/meeting_abstract/122/21_MeetingAbstracts/A19338

This is part of a growing body of medical research showing that marathon running in particular is not a healthy lifestyle but is, in fact, quite dangerous. The matched controls in this study had aerobic exercise of less than 3 hours per week, so you could argue that running marathons may be more dangerous than sitting on the couch. I'm talking about high mileage and marathon training, not average running club members running less than 30 miles per week. The 86 year-old woman would probably be alive now if she had seen the right kind of doctor: A psychiatrist. You don't see people keeling over dead from running 400 meters.

K5 wrote:

Really? You think it's ok for an 86 yo woman to run a marathon? Moron.

And you think it's ok to stop someone from doing something they absolutely have every right to do? Moron.

According to the Cleveland Clinic, sudden cardiac death occurs in about one of every 15,000 joggers and one in every 50,000 runners; a 2008 study in European Heart Journal equated the greatest risk of sudden cardiac arrest in marathon runners with those who had the least amount of training.

Just so you know, sudden cardiac death occurs in about 1 in 925 for the GENERAL population...So marathon runners are about 50 times less likely to keel over dead from a heart attack....just sayin.

coach d wrote:

Marathon runners had significantly higher systolic, diastolic, pulse (aortic and brachial) and mean pressures compared to controls (p less than 0.05 for all).

What a crock of nonsense.

Anyone who thinks medical journals are science is a fool, and anyone who thinks sprinters have lower blood pressures than competitive marathoners is retarded, probably from lack of blood flow to the brain.

That is simply not the case and is so far from reality it's ridiculous.

Oh for fcks sake, she didn't need to see a psychiatrist. If she enjoyed running marathons then good for her. I do think she should've stopped after she hit her head, but it may have made no difference anyway. RIP.

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15 hours a week = 900 minutes = 2.5 hours a day. That is an enormous amount of running. For a good runner, 900 minutes comes out to around 130 miles a week. What portion of marathon runners do you think run that much? 1 in 10,000?

That is one beautiful woman, and a kick-ass person, not afraid of living life.

I think that once a person is past 80, they get a free pass on things like this.

She was beautiful, articulate, intelligent, and unafraid.

I would have been proud to have known her.

Just knowing OF her makes me proud to be alive.