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notlikingit
Who made the worse choice, Andrews or Cabral? 8/23/2013 5:17PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
(In joining NJ-NY TC)

Cabral gets 0 steeple training partners, Andrews stays at home in a less-than-ideal environment.

Discuss.
Wow Unbelievable
RE: Who made the worse choice, Andrews or Cabral? 8/23/2013 5:19PM - in reply to notlikingit Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Not Cabral
Diggity Doo
RE: Who made the worse choice, Andrews or Cabral? 8/23/2013 5:28PM - in reply to Wow Unbelievable Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Gotta go with cabral. I feel like it's more important to have a real distance partner vs 800m guys. Robby will have guys to crank out quicker stuff with him (eg. 3:35 Merber)
InWyo
RE: Who made the worse choice, Andrews or Cabral? 8/23/2013 5:59PM - in reply to Diggity Doo Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Diggity Doo wrote:

Gotta go with cabral. I feel like it's more important to have a real distance partner vs 800m guys. Robby will have guys to crank out quicker stuff with him (eg. 3:35 Merber)


Also, I think Andrews considers himself a 1500 m guy now.
001001
RE: Who made the worse choice, Andrews or Cabral? 8/23/2013 6:36PM - in reply to notlikingit Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
NJNY has to be one of, if not THE best collective 800m groups in the country with Rutt, Andrews, Brown, and Gagnon. (NJNY DMR at Penn Relays???)

Cabral will probably be working out alone for steeple specific sessions, but honestly where else could he have gone? I bet Schumacher isn't taking any more guys with an already overfull house. Salazar doesn't bother with the steeple. He could join the Indiana guys group, but they're all below Cabral's level and not enough motive to move to the middle of the country IMO. He had a lot of success with more of a 1500/steeple focus versus a 5k/steeple focus, so from that vantage point he'll be set for his non-steeple specific stuff. He was working out mostly alone the whole year prior to the Olympics and that worked out fine.
Let Us Run
RE: Who made the worse choice, Andrews or Cabral? 8/23/2013 6:43PM - in reply to 001001 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Cabral can run with Mahoney, plus Princeton is nearby. I'm sure he has other people to run with in the NYC area.
Wonders never cease
RE: Who made the worse choice, Andrews or Cabral? 8/23/2013 6:49PM - in reply to 001001 Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It's amazing how the overall point you make is good without one of your reasons being accurate. Impressive.
Zippyzappy
RE: Who made the worse choice, Andrews or Cabral? 8/23/2013 7:00PM - in reply to Wonders never cease Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Cabral got sick, Andrews got Brain sprain.
swag dome chicks n sht
RE: Who made the worse choice, Andrews or Cabral? 8/23/2013 7:06PM - in reply to notlikingit Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Andrews is so immature haha. He still seems like a kid compared to some of these guys.
Future guess
RE: Who made the worse choice, Andrews or Cabral? 8/23/2013 9:04PM - in reply to swag dome chicks n sht Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Where else could either go that would be better?
Andrews is Adidas so can't go to Nike group.
Cabral can go to Nike group, but Salazar isn't into steeple and Rowland's for some strange reason doesn't have one. Going to train with Evan isn't exactly a guarantee as Huling hasn't come close to his 8:14 PB and completely bombed at Worlds (again).
notlikingit
RE: Who made the worse choice, Andrews or Cabral? 8/23/2013 9:37PM - in reply to Future guess Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Would have liked to see Andrews go anywhere >100 miles from Manalapan.

Would have liked to see Cabral either with Salazar (you're telling me you don't think Alberto would like to one-up schumacher?), or Robert Gary (with Cory Leslie). OTC, even without a great steeple partner would have incredible resources and plenty of distance guys to do 90% of his workouts with. Even Indiana Elite would have been a better choice.
Andrews get some UVA pssy
RE: Who made the worse choice, Andrews or Cabral? 8/23/2013 11:28PM - in reply to notlikingit Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Andrews needs to go back to Charlottesville. The UVA girls are so hot.
DMVarea
RE: Who made the worse choice, Andrews or Cabral? 8/24/2013 11:34AM - in reply to Let Us Run Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Let Us Run wrote:

Cabral can run with Mahoney, plus Princeton is nearby. I'm sure he has other people to run with in the NYC area.


this. Mahoney might not yet be an international caliber steepler, but he's still good enough for Cabral to train with. there's not many steeplers of Cabral's caliber in the US, but Mahoney is good enough, and people forget that. He'll be a respectable force on a national scale soon. On an international scale, probably not. But unless Cabral is training with Jager, Mahoney is one the next tier below them, so it's not like he has no one to train with.
30000 steeplers
RE: Who made the worse choice, Andrews or Cabral? 8/24/2013 12:06PM - in reply to DMVarea Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Mahoney is NOT on 2nd tier.

Jager way out in front

Huling, Cabral, Leslie, Turner

Poore, Forys, Cowart

Many 8:30-40 steeples including Mahoney
DMVarea
RE: Who made the worse choice, Andrews or Cabral? 8/24/2013 12:42PM - in reply to 30000 steeplers Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
I never said he was on the 2nd tier - I said he was a tier below Jager & Co. He's able to compete on a national level, and not internationally. And he's not below Poore, Forys, or Cowart in any way. Mahoney's PR is 8:30.87, and at the time of US champs, he had the 7th best time in the US. Certainly not an international caliber time, but Mahoney is a very very young guy with a lot of upside, and he's gonna be a great training partner for Cabral.
read much
RE: Who made the worse choice, Andrews or Cabral? 8/24/2013 1:09PM - in reply to DMVarea Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Hey bro, we all admit Jager is on the 1st tier, the "one below" is indeed the 2nd tier.

Big difference breaking 8:20, Jager still only American to do so 2013!

Mahoney will never break 8:20. Turner future of the event besides Jager.
Let Us Run
RE: Who made the worse choice, Andrews or Cabral? 8/24/2013 1:23PM - in reply to read much Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Cabral with that 3:56 mile should be up there soon. Give him some time to recuperate from the awful Pacific northwest, eat a decent bagel or two, and he should be back on his game.
sohcahtoa
RE: Who made the worse choice, Andrews or Cabral? 8/24/2013 6:41PM - in reply to Let Us Run Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

Let Us Run wrote:

Cabral with that 3:56 mile should be up there soon. Give him some time to recuperate from the awful Pacific northwest, eat a decent bagel or two, and he should be back on his game.


you've clearly never been to bellingham
Let Us Run
RE: Who made the worse choice, Andrews or Cabral? 8/24/2013 6:54PM - in reply to sohcahtoa Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

sohcahtoa wrote:

you've clearly never been to bellingham

And, God willing, I never will.
Jesse P
RE: Who made the worse choice, Andrews or Cabral? 8/24/2013 7:06PM - in reply to notlikingit Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Build it and they will come, yo.
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