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Pondering Pete
Could civilian gun owners defeat the US military? 1/15/2013 12:20PM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
If the government decided to abandon democracy and the constitution, and had the military in support, would civilians be able to overpower them?
My name is Lance
RE: Could civilian gun owners defeat the US military? 1/15/2013 12:27PM - in reply to Pondering Pete Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
a retarded premise. Much - probably most - of the US military would refuse to engage the enemy in your story. I think that's why you see this bizarre focus by the feds on domestic home grown terrorists and why they label ex-military as potential threats. They're trying to build a case for if/when they have to face down a populace fed up with an out of control govt. Also explains why agencies like USPS, FEMA, TSA, Homeland, IRS, etc. have been stocking up on tons of ammo & all sorts of weaponry..
jihad jane
RE: Could civilian gun owners defeat the US military? 1/15/2013 12:27PM - in reply to Pondering Pete Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
An armed insurgency in the US could do far greater damage to a military than the armed insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Mc Butt Poked in the ....
RE: Could civilian gun owners defeat the US military? 1/15/2013 12:31PM - in reply to Pondering Pete Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Vietnam kicked the holy shit out of racist white US militants
tardbro
RE: Could civilian gun owners defeat the US military? 1/15/2013 12:39PM - in reply to Pondering Pete Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
There are at least 50 million gun owners in the U.S, that number is probably closer to 100 million.


The military has about 2.5 million active duty, reserve, and guard members. The majority of this number while trained, are not equipped with front line gear, weapons, and are not combat ready. While the military does have approximately 2000 combat aircraft, those aircraft are dependent on timely fuel deliveries.

Civilian gun owners in the U.S would overpower any military on earth including its own in a matter of weeks.


Imagine if the Indians had rifles when the spanish and english landed in the new world. Thats about how it would go.
enough is ENOUGH
RE: Could civilian gun owners defeat the US military? 1/15/2013 12:42PM - in reply to tardbro Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Ummm... ever heard of drone warfare?
Bird Man of Malcatraz
RE: Could civilian gun owners defeat the US military? 1/15/2013 12:42PM - in reply to Pondering Pete Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Would civilian gun owners have Rambo, Chuck Norris, The Incredible Hulk and Wonder Woman on our side?
truth is....
RE: Could civilian gun owners defeat the US military? 1/15/2013 12:43PM - in reply to Pondering Pete Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
civilian gun ownership seemed to work pretty well for the insurgents in iraq, yes?
tardbro
RE: Could civilian gun owners defeat the US military? 1/15/2013 12:45PM - in reply to enough is ENOUGH Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Fuel deliveries bro, Fuel deliveries.


The oil/fuel delivery logistics is a nightmare bro. You'd also have desertion rates pushing 50% the first week bro.


bro.
girls have ginas
RE: Could civilian gun owners defeat the US military? 1/15/2013 12:48PM - in reply to truth is.... Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

truth is.... wrote:

civilian gun ownership seemed to work pretty well for the insurgents in iraq, yes?



They were happy to get rid of Saddam at first.


Also their ownership rates were significantly lower than in the U.S and Iraq is a much smaller country than the U.S, and the logistical end point was Iraq, in the U.S the logistical start points and end points are all over the place.

It would be over mostly in a week, with some small pockets of hold outs lasting a few months until they starved.
afasdfs
RE: Could civilian gun owners defeat the US military? 1/15/2013 12:57PM - in reply to tardbro Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

tardbro wrote:

There are at least 50 million gun owners in the U.S, that number is probably closer to 100 million.


The military has about 2.5 million active duty, reserve, and guard members. The majority of this number while trained, are not equipped with front line gear, weapons, and are not combat ready. While the military does have approximately 2000 combat aircraft, those aircraft are dependent on timely fuel deliveries.

Civilian gun owners in the U.S would overpower any military on earth including its own in a matter of weeks.


Imagine if the Indians had rifles when the spanish and english landed in the new world. Thats about how it would go.


Imagine if the real Indians had guns when the English landed. Oh wait, they did. Look what happened.
My Name Is Judge
RE: Could civilian gun owners defeat the US military? 1/15/2013 12:59PM - in reply to tardbro Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

tardbro wrote:

There are at least 50 million gun owners in the U.S, that number is probably closer to 100 million.


The military has about 2.5 million active duty, reserve, and guard members. The majority of this number while trained, are not equipped with front line gear, weapons, and are not combat ready. While the military does have approximately 2000 combat aircraft, those aircraft are dependent on timely fuel deliveries.

Civilian gun owners in the U.S would overpower any military on earth including its own in a matter of weeks.


Imagine if the Indians had rifles when the spanish and english landed in the new world. Thats about how it would go.


How many of those supposed 100 million gun owners would actually take up armed resistance though. I feel like the number of those that engage the military would be much, much lower.
Vegas
RE: Could civilian gun owners defeat the US military? 1/15/2013 1:01PM - in reply to afasdfs Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Vegas says the money is on the US military.
googoobeans
RE: Could civilian gun owners defeat the US military? 1/15/2013 1:05PM - in reply to Vegas Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Our government's allies would give the military fuel/resources to crush us. Plus, they've got plenty of fuel to last long enough to destroy all threats. I heard one time that the military has 2 years of fuel reserves.
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RE: Could civilian gun owners defeat the US military? 1/15/2013 1:06PM - in reply to googoobeans Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Two words: air superiority
Alex Jones
RE: Could civilian gun owners defeat the US military? 1/15/2013 1:13PM - in reply to ........ Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
It would never happen since the government has been controlling the vast majority of the populous for years through the fluoride in the water.
Flagpole Delenda Est
RE: Could civilian gun owners defeat the US military? 1/15/2013 1:33PM - in reply to Pondering Pete Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Yankee individualists and Frontiersmen would obliterate the professional soldiers, who merely have aircraft and nukes.
Freedom is Ours
RE: Could civilian gun owners defeat the US military? 1/15/2013 1:45PM - in reply to Pondering Pete Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
There's no way in hell we can give up our assault rifles. Look at the homes Obama has stolen from families in Jerusalem recently.
Boom Boom Boom
RE: Could civilian gun owners defeat the US military? 1/15/2013 1:46PM - in reply to Flagpole Delenda Est Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Civilian gun owners would not stand a chance at all. It would be over in a heartbeat. Gee Wiz I wonder if all these rednecks with guns could handle a dozen tanks with air to ground support. Game over man, game over.
last big win> March 16, 1968
RE: Could civilian gun owners defeat the US military? 1/15/2013 1:57PM - in reply to Pondering Pete Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
A bunch of short rice farmers beat the US Military four decades ago nothing has changed. The US military has not "WON" a war since 1946 and then it wasn't just them they basically had the whole world helping them do it.
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