Is there a worse state than Wisconsin?

Iowa, high state income tax and horrible weather

Yes. Ohio.

Dude, you aren't helping the cause of Texas here. You're not exactly providing representation of its noble citizenry. Get precious roy on here.

Being a low tax state, meaning high sales tax but no income tax and quite low property taxes, is nothing to be proud of. It means that Florida lacks many of the services that are valued in other places, such as good public transportation, well maintained parks, a good school system, a diverse economy that can handle tourism and real estate shocks, etc.

The weather is also unbearable outside for 6 months a year, and indeed, miserable for runners for 8 months a year. And culture is limited at best.

It’s so great that it has to get its water from New Mexico! It has to get its water from a desert!

Also not very convincing. I visited Wisconsin when it was -18 and worse wind chill, maybe -40. A populated football stadium does not a great college town make. It's 30th in one ranking, where #9 Flagstaff is arguably the best.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/09/07/best-college-towns-these-30-rank-among-30-top-us/2235088001/

+1. Being a low tax state almost always means reliance on some sort of abnormal tax base, as is the case with Florida tourism with Disney and Universal. Those states almost always also provide scant services for their citizens, so the medical services, transportation infrastructure, and education are chronically underfunded. How is the Florida state budget going to look for the next several years without big fat checks rolling in from Disney, Universal and bajillions of retirees flooding the zone? It's going to be a fvcking disaster. And when the residents look for any kind of support from government, or from medicine, they're going to be double fvcked. The southern states have been stealing jobs and people from the Northern states for decades now, using flim flam arguments about 'right to work', providing minimal services, terrible education, low taxes and "hey, it's sunny down here", along with race baiting right wing bvllsh1t, and they've grown tremendously in that time. Now comes the time to pay the piper. Disasters lay bare the lies don't they? The southern governors are Trumpkins. The services in many of the southern states are sh1t. The right-wing 'freedom lovers' are dripping out of their cockroach dens, er churches, even now. The medical systems are lacking. The cultures are ignorant. The social safety nets and worker protections are non-existent. Welcome to life in a second-rate theocracy, where freedom means freedom to drop dead in a ditch. But hey, it's sunny!

zxcvzcxv wrote:

Being a low tax state, meaning high sales tax but no income tax and quite low property taxes, is nothing to be proud of. It means that Florida lacks many of the services that are valued in other places, such as good public transportation, well maintained parks, a good school system, a diverse economy that can handle tourism and real estate shocks, etc.

I have little dog in this fight as I’m Canadian and have only visited nineteen states: N. Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, Tennessee, Kentucky, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Massachusetts, New York, California, Missouri, Iowa, Nebraska.

I’ve probably only spent a week or more in ten of them.

But, I’ve got to say many parts of Wisconsin are quite nice. The Apostle Islands area is great, I thought some of the college towns (e.g. Eau Claire) looked quite nice when raced there for XC. Haven’t spent any considerable time in larger WI cities, though.

4 pages in and not a single person who has been to New Mexico.

wisc is bad yeah, but not as bad as NY and NJ

sjsjsjsjsjdsuhhg wrote:

I have little dog in this fight as I’m Canadian and have only visited nineteen states: N. Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, Tennessee, Kentucky, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Massachusetts, New York, California, Missouri, Iowa, Nebraska.

I’ve probably only spent a week or more in ten of them.

But, I’ve got to say many parts of Wisconsin are quite nice. The Apostle Islands area is great, I thought some of the college towns (e.g. Eau Claire) looked quite nice when raced there for XC. Haven’t spent any considerable time in larger WI cities, though.

You from Winnipeg, Boy?

Powergeezer wrote:

sjsjsjsjsjdsuhhg wrote:

I have little dog in this fight as I’m Canadian and have only visited nineteen states: N. Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, Tennessee, Kentucky, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Massachusetts, New York, California, Missouri, Iowa, Nebraska.

I’ve probably only spent a week or more in ten of them.

But, I’ve got to say many parts of Wisconsin are quite nice. The Apostle Islands area is great, I thought some of the college towns (e.g. Eau Claire) looked quite nice when raced there for XC. Haven’t spent any considerable time in larger WI cities, though.

You from Winnipeg, Boy?

Lived in Winnipeg and Thunder Bay!

FjwLTx wrote:

The only other state that I can think of (though there are a few states I haven't been to and can't comment on) is Rhode Island. Because it's so small that there's really not room to have anything good about it unless you like Providence. So it's really weird. I don't especially dislike RI, but there's not really anything there to like either. For the purpose of making comparisons it would maybe make more sense to compare it to other cities or metropolitan areas and not to other states.

Rhode Island is amazing. Providence is one the best small cities in America loaded with culture. It's incredibly progressive and has tons of great restaurants and a great art scene. It is also anti-sprawl.

Plus is has three great schools: Brown University (Ivy League), RISD (the best art school in the country), and Providence College (Friars Hoops and Hockey).

As for the rest of RI, I recommendThe Breakers/Newport and Narragansett which has terrific beaches. It's also close to Martha's Vineyard, Boston and NYC is an easy trip along the water.

It's about time someone was positive on their own state. Too many complainers.

Florida rocks!

sjsjsjsjsjdsuhhg wrote:

Powergeezer wrote:

You from Winnipeg, Boy?

Lived in Winnipeg and Thunder Bay!

Ha! Knew it, that list of states was a dead giveaway.

the430miler wrote:

TeXXXas is the greatest country in the entire world. If u disagree with that then ohuck your godamn familia

I would have agreed if it wasn't for all the Texans.