Anyone else rooting against Kipchoge breaking 2 hours?

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Looks like someone got triggered because they didn't like that another person doesn't want to see Kipchoge run under 2 hours on Saturday. Hey little shitt! People have differing opinions on the Kipchoge laboratory marathon. You're the buffoon because your feelings got triggered, and you acted like a snowflake idiot.

I happen to be rooting against Kipchoge as well, for several reasons. I hope this post doesn't get your panties in a wad!

Labratory Mice Marathon wrote:

I hope I'm not the only one rooting against Kipchoge to break 2 hours. This laboratory setup, with several pacers, and trees brought in to create shade, is a complete joke! I will be cheering hard for Kipchoge to run over 2 hours. This is not the way I want to see the 2 hour marathon broken. No way, Jose!

Coevett and I and all the other Stormfront guys sure are!!

I root for Kipchoge, but pretty much only because of the Nike association. Honestly, I didn’t know a thing about the marathon scene before last year. That being said, even as high school runners we know that T&F is only still around because of Nike. Even on our 60+ person team, only 2-3 follow professional T&F at all, and we qualify for our state meet almost every year. Just looking at the audiences at track meets it makes no sense economically for runners to be sponsored or for meets to be held period. Idk what’s wrong with you old timers, but for anyone who even wants track to stick around, you should be throwing Nike all the support you can

You sound like you believe Nike is concerned about track and field. They are concerned about profit maximization, nothing more. If they can put their swoosh logo on something and get more money for it, regardless of the the real value or quality, then that’s what’s going to happen. They want big names, big events, and big news, if it takes breaking some rules...well just look at NOP. If you buy Nike, you are supporting everything they stand for.

I don't understand why people could be against INEOS 1:59. Who cares about it being official. When Roger Bannister broke 4 minutes in the mile, running under that feat became more common and it kickstarted the running scene. What's so wrong with this sub 2 attempt when it will do the same thing? It hasn't even happened yet and athletes like Bekele and Geremew are rallying behind the physical feats of Kipchoge like those that came after Bannister. Being against Kipchoge breaking 2 is being against the human race striving to do what was once impossible.

It honestly baffles me that someone could be this pathetic.

If you want to talk about "being against the human race striving to do what was one impossible" why don't you argue with people that think the moon landing was a hoax first? What would have been great is if Kipchoge actually ran head to head against Bekele in Berlin. That way a real world record could have been set. 2:01:38 or whatever is very far away from sub 2 hours still. This event might as well be on a treadmill or on a downhill course or with a 13mph tailwind the whole way.

Daltonj800m wrote:

I don't understand why people could be against INEOS 1:59. Who cares about it being official. When Roger Bannister broke 4 minutes in the mile, running under that feat became more common and it kickstarted the running scene. What's so wrong with this sub 2 attempt when it will do the same thing? It hasn't even happened yet and athletes like Bekele and Geremew are rallying behind the physical feats of Kipchoge like those that came after Bannister. Being against Kipchoge breaking 2 is being against the human race striving to do what was once impossible.

I treat the moon landing hoax people with the same respect as I do flat-earthers. They are at a level of stupidity you can't reason with.

Sure 2:01:38 is far from 2 hours but 2:00:25 isn't. Kipchoge is on the verge of what was once impossible. He already has a record. He's not running to win, to get prize money, or set a record. he's running to inspire and that's all anyone should care about . No matter what the conditions are, a 1:59 marathon is still something to be inspired from

Sesamoiditis wrote:

Seyta wrote:

You're aware that Ineos is sponsoring this right? And that in terms of revenue, Ineos far-outstrips Nike, despite being privately owned right?

People aren't going to go out and buy Ineos chemicals if Kipchoge breaks 2. They will go out and buy Nike shoes, singlets, arm sleeves, and shorts. It is no coincidence that all the pacers are Nike sponsored athletes and that they will all be wearing Nike shoes, singlets and shorts.

Ineos is more than chemicals breh. They specialize in petrochemicals and plastics besides the boring lab materials. Wouldn’t be surprised if they are a raw material supplier for Nike.

I'm always rooting against progress. I hate to see world records and bests be broken. I want all world records to last forever.

sbeefyk2 wrote:

The people who would root against sub 2 hours are very sad, miserable people. Likely those that feel like they screwed up their life at some point and want to see the world burn and bring people down to their level of misery.

It's ok to be happy for others who achieve their goals. In fact, those that cheer people on tend to be more successful in life.

That's a very nasty, narrow-minded, and quite ignorant assessment of the lives and psychological make-up of those who, like me, don't want to see this happen.

I like Eliud Kipchope. I generally root for him, and I generally want to see him achieve his goals. But if he runs under two hours in this exhibition, many people -- including, it seems, many on this website -- will regard and celebrate it as the equivalent of a legitimate sub-two marathon, and "the bell cannot be unrung." The drama and achievement of the first sub-two marathon, when it actually occurs, will almost certainly be diminished forever. And the marketing success of this exhibition will almost certainly encourage even further the longterm trend away from racing in favor of aided time-trials, exhibitions, and experiments performed under laboratory conditions. I think that trend has already hurt the sport greatly. And in this particular instance, there seems to be little reason for the exhibition other than advertising for the main sponsor.

coevett's doppleganger wrote:

Labratory Mice Marathon wrote:

I hope I'm not the only one rooting against Kipchoge to break 2 hours. This laboratory setup, with several pacers, and trees brought in to create shade, is a complete joke! I will be cheering hard for Kipchoge to run over 2 hours. This is not the way I want to see the 2 hour marathon broken. No way, Jose!

Coevett and I and all the other Stormfront guys sure are!!

Ah yes. The old you don't like what I like so you must be a racist angle.

The 2 marathon bar is mythical, but not in these conditions.

With all these artificial set up and created conditions the deck is stacked in favour of Kipchoge.

His 2:01:39 will appear to be much more impressive than his sub 2 hours marathon at INEOS event. That's why nobody is happy to see that freakshow.

If the only manner to remove these 1:39 is with the use of 30 pacers, an electric car on an artificially created set up, this is not interesting.

This is not marathon. This is a training set up. Like someone said, it could be done on a threadmill, that would have the same value.

No, I don’t root against people and humankind.

EssorLinki wrote:

The 2 marathon bar is mythical, but not in these conditions.

With all these artificial set up and created conditions the deck is stacked in favour of Kipchoge.

His 2:01:39 will appear to be much more impressive than his sub 2 hours marathon at INEOS event. That's why nobody is happy to see that freakshow.

If the only manner to remove these 1:39 is with the use of 30 pacers, an electric car on an artificially created set up, this is not interesting.

This is not marathon. This is a training set up. Like someone said, it could be done on a threadmill, that would have the same value.

The value isn't in how it's done, but that it can be done. Kipchoge was never fully convinced he could break 2 until he ran 2:00:25. Afterwards, he realized the potential and strove to break the WR by massive margins (followed by Geremew, a rather unknown athlete who had the same confidence in human potential as Kipchoge). Once that WR fell, Bekele had the confidence to run 2:01:41. Sure it sucks that it's not a true race, but this will give others the motivation to run sub 2 in Berlin or London. It's not about INEOS 1:59 itself, but what the future of the Marathon will be because of it

45 minutes till the wheels come off!

OP goes home devastated

coevett's tears wrote:

OP goes home devastated

thumbs up!

Yup, was hoping this would not happen.

In the sports current environment, awash is drugs, I would rather see a slower time that I know is genuine and not developed in a lab. Even the courses nowadays are bullshit. I would like to see Bekele and Kipchoge come RACE in NYC, a real course, and see if they can break 2:04:00.