Ingebrigtsen are suspected dopers by IAAF

Subway Surfers wrote:

I think that the Fancy Bears list is worth taking seriously, the interesting thing about them that I was reading just two days ago was Rodal was saying that the entire family has very high hemoglobin levels. If the father knew this early enough and they are clean, hats off too him.

So far, each and every case of that list that came out in the open - including this one - has been confirmed.

As for the high hemoglobin (whether true or not): this doesn't lead to a likely doping status. Abrupt changes do, such as jumps of over 15% within a few days.

Hardloper wrote:

Could be fake wrote:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadspin.com/fancy-bears-the-hackers-who-leaked-all-that-doping-dat-1829530568/amp

They were Russian military intelligence... it also shows the documents were modified from the original. Do you actually believe the “leak” is remotely real? Cmon. Don’t be so naive.

Yep. LOL at anyone who fell for this.

Yep, the usual idiots on this thread.

My GOD how dirty is track and field .

the base dope , for many and any athlete of note in athletics .

we now got the brasilian and columbians jumping on bandwagon .

part of the juiced ball situation have in baseball at moment , and nobody apartently knowes about it .

Smoke and Mirrors . time some say might be up .

but if we get to 2020 will do all in power to show what a bunch of Rats and liars wada , iaaf and seb are .

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Armstronglivs wrote:

But only one brother could be doping - right?

Think of a situation where a coach is caught with 120 preloaded syringes of epo and two steroids. Yet, none of his athletes test positive. What is the next move?

The brothers hemoglobin levels are above 17. But it is because of genes. Their father has it to

Could be fake wrote:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadspin.com/fancy-bears-the-hackers-who-leaked-all-that-doping-dat-1829530568/amp

They were Russian military intelligence... it also shows the documents were modified from the original. Do you actually believe the “leak” is remotely real? Cmon. Don’t be so naive.

No...it's real:

Coevett wrote:

sayitisnotso wrote:

Coevett disagrees!

Yet Kenyan and Ethiopian domination is entirely down to genes.

The stupidity on this board never fails to amaze me.

Has anyone said it's only genetics?

I've heard there are multiple factors. You seem to think it's only drugs.

Able to connect the dots wrote:

3 World class athletes in one Norwegian family...at the same time? Too good to be true. We all rightfully suspect the same thing.

I had two in my family. And there were only 2 of us. And the national population was 17 million people.

Able to connect the dots wrote:

3 World class athletes in one Norwegian family...at the same time? Too good to be true. We all rightfully suspect the same thing.

As always, the Ethiopians set that record first! ;-)

Ejegayehu Dibaba (2004 Olympic silver medalist 10000 meters), Tirunesh Dibaba and Genzebe Dibaba.

Only one ingebrigtsen is listed on there, not three. Do you always use plural for a single entity? Not all three were listed, yet you state that they were in the title.

Please, be professional and act in accordance with the law. This is slander. Also, this is a forged document.

Keep eating up this intelligence rubbish , all smoke and mirrors .

These norwegians are on the choosen list and wont be touched as it stands .

they are just one of nearly every other athlete that made a final at worlds as being dirty .

time might be up so just might know how rigged and dirty was .

Subway Surfers wrote:

I think that the Fancy Bears list is worth taking seriously, the interesting thing about them that I was reading just two days ago was Rodal was saying that the entire family has very high hemoglobin levels. If the father knew this early enough and they are clean, hats off too him.

Yes, this is a hereditary thing in parts of Norway, especially the northern mountainous parts where the old Vikings had to survive winters that would make Alaska look like Miami. For one Vegard Ulvang, multiple Olympic and World champion in Nordic Skiing back in the 90s, was cleared for competing after an enhanced investigation showed that other males in his family had hemoglobin levels above average.

What you suspect is often the truth wrote:

https://antidopingworld.wordpress.com/2017/07/06/leaked-leak-henrik-ingebrigtsen-has-been-doping-suspect-by-the-iaaf/

The truth is blood doping in Norway is a way of life in cross country skiing which is very important sport in the country.

Super sophisticated with years of using it in the sport of world class cross country skiing. Yes, they have a had few busts, but largely unchecked. Runners benefit from the knowledge.

Of course it's possible that where brothers are athletes with high haemoglobin levels it's because all are doping.

Hayduke wrote:

Able to connect the dots wrote:

3 World class athletes in one Norwegian family...at the same time? Too good to be true. We all rightfully suspect the same thing.

Isn’t having 3 family members fast less suspect than 3 milers(coe ovett cram) from different families on the same small island

Being world class

Isn’t having an entire nation of people (Kenya) be great far more suspect?

Idiot Alert wrote:

Only one ingebrigtsen is listed on there, not three. Do you always use plural for a single entity? Not all three were listed, yet you state that they were in the title.

Please, be professional and act in accordance with the law. This is slander. Also, this is a forged document.

It's been authenticated by WADA - you can look it up. There's already been one athlete from the list where a ABP violation has been charged (Vitaliy Shafar), and a few others from the list have been popped for doping per target testing.

What good old days are you t about. Carl Lewis was just as dirty but he was a cry baby so the man went after Ben. Him and Johnson were both doping. Do some digging you find Lewis to be just as suspicions.

Also I'll say it. Bolt. Dirty athlete. He has never tested positive aka he never got caught.

Gatlin still dirty. How else do you explain a 37 year old man still getting silver at worlds.

Makes me sick. I stopped watching worlds half way through. It's all bullshit they are all dirty at the top.

Nike and capitalism just selling it's lies to little kids in Portland.

MohammedAA wrote:

Isn’t having an entire nation of people (Kenya) be great far more suspect?

That's like saying all of the US is good at basketball, American football and sprinting when we know that to be true of only a small subset of the US population. Most Americans are fat NACAR-watching, bass-fishing, couch potatoes.

Able to connect the dots wrote:

3 World class athletes in one Norwegian family...at the same time? Too good to be true. We all rightfully suspect the same thing.

You do realize that if a given individual possesses certain heritable traits, the odds that his first-degree relatives will share those traits are actually HIGHER than someone outside the family sharing them, right? That's kind of how being "related" to other humans works.

Also, would it have satisfied you had they all been from the same family, but NOT at the same time? Like five generations apart, maybe?