Remember Mr. Badass who killed a mountain lion with his bare hands? He killed a runt kitten

voice of experience wrote:

When I was younger I worked for a veterinarian, often holding animals while they were examined or treated. I got to get a grip on them while they still were calm and non-aggressive. I would love to see you try to restrain an angry 25lb cat Mr. know-it-all.

^^ Total troll by OP, but random runner vs. a bobcat . My $ is on the feline.

short distance wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

This is not a good video of what actually happened because the cat covered a lot of distance in like microseconds but this cat maybe weighs 5 pounds. Imagine a cat 6 times that size.

Your assumption is WRONG. The bigger they are, the longer it takes to get up to speed. A small animal is like a sports car--off and at speed fast. A large animal is like a semi-truck--it takes more time to get up to speed.

A sports car and a semi-truck might have an engine with comparable horsepower. The sports car maybe weighs 2500 pounds and the truck weighs maybe 10,000. So you have the same motor but 4 times the weight. Of course it will be slower. A 5-pound cat and a 30-pound lion are vastly different. The 30-pound lion is going to have much more powerful muscles.

Original reports stated it was a juvenile.

ukathleticscoach wrote:

Original reports stated it was a juvenile.

The carcass had been eaten on by other animals. So, it was tough to discern the age or weight of the lion.

exrunner wrote:

Haha haha wow wrote:

Fake news? Lol that’s hilarious. Fake news are all the outlets touting this dude like the ultimate badass and suggesting he killed a full grown adult mountain lion (100 lbs +). He killed a small kitten who had zero hunting skills, now it is officially confirmed.

If a 100lb mountain lion can kill a 500/600lb elk, you think it’s unimpressive for an unarmed 150lb man to survive a 40lb mountain lion?

That’s like fighting a bull terrier who can also easily jump up and rip out your throat/put it’s claws into your back and kick out your stomach with it’s hind legs.

the 30 lbs lion kitten is about the same size as a wiener dog or medium sized raccoon .

Healthy run weight wrote:

exrunner wrote:

If a 100lb mountain lion can kill a 500/600lb elk, you think it’s unimpressive for an unarmed 150lb man to survive a 40lb mountain lion?

That’s like fighting a bull terrier who can also easily jump up and rip out your throat/put it’s claws into your back and kick out your stomach with it’s hind legs.

the 30 lbs lion kitten is about the same size as a wiener dog or medium sized raccoon .

Are you really going to diss a weiner dog now?

Hahaha wow wrote:

Mountain lion killed by Colorado trail runner was a kitten, necropsy report says

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/02/28/mountain-lion-killed-colorado-trail-runner-was-kitten-necropsy/3018766002/

Just stop..

exrunner wrote:

Haha haha wow wrote:

Fake news? Lol that’s hilarious. Fake news are all the outlets touting this dude like the ultimate badass and suggesting he killed a full grown adult mountain lion (100 lbs +). He killed a small kitten who had zero hunting skills, now it is officially confirmed.

If a 100lb mountain lion can kill a 500/600lb elk, you think it’s unimpressive for an unarmed 150lb man to survive a 40lb mountain lion?

That’s like fighting a bull terrier who can also easily jump up and rip out your throat/put it’s claws into your back and kick out your stomach with it’s hind legs.

An Elk can get closer to 1000 pounds and the larger males Mountain lions can still take one down.

If it was a juvenile it must have been older than stated. Wouldn't it have been born last spring instead of in the fall?

It doesn't seem like being born in the fall is a good recipe for surviving a first winter.

short distance wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

This is not a good video of what actually happened because the cat covered a lot of distance in like microseconds but this cat maybe weighs 5 pounds. Imagine a cat 6 times that size.

Your assumption is WRONG. The bigger they are, the longer it takes to get up to speed. A small animal is like a sports car--off and at speed fast. A large animal is like a semi-truck--it takes more time to get up to speed.

That’s why a 150lb cheetah can reach 50mph in two seconds, right?

Moran.

exrunner wrote:

short distance wrote:

Your assumption is WRONG. The bigger they are, the longer it takes to get up to speed. A small animal is like a sports car--off and at speed fast. A large animal is like a semi-truck--it takes more time to get up to speed.

That’s why a 150lb cheetah can reach 50mph in two seconds, right?

Moran.

Nicely done.

Hahaha wow wrote:

Mountain lion killed by Colorado trail runner was a kitten, necropsy report says

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/02/28/mountain-lion-killed-colorado-trail-runner-was-kitten-necropsy/3018766002/

Kitten or not, he's lucky he wasn't disemboweled.

What can I say? An itty bitty kitty can still pack a punch! That goes for a tiny mountain lion, too. Have a good laugh (I hope...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrgbZlE7q7k

People really don't get what cats are really capable of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5jX3GnwThU

The misleading nature of the hype was pretty clear once they showed a pic of the guy. Became transparently obvious with the video of him describing the fight. Major disappointment.

Fighting a 40 pound cougar is about the same as fighting two 20 pound bobcats.

While the cougar is arguably better equipped with longer claws and teeth, the bobcats can utilize teamwork to attack from different sides. If bobcats are into cooperative hunting, we should be wary, because handling two of them at once could be tricky.

A cougar kitten is also dangerous if its cougar mama is around to protect it, watch out!

You just added 10 lbs to the lion kitten . The main thin is the kitten was not in hunting mode , just aggressive play . Similar to how puppies bite each other when playing .

Ca$hclay wrote:

voice of experience wrote:

When I was younger I worked for a veterinarian, often holding animals while they were examined or treated. I got to get a grip on them while they still were calm and non-aggressive. I would love to see you try to restrain an angry 25lb cat Mr. know-it-all.

^^ Total troll by OP, but random runner vs. a bobcat . My $ is on the feline.

I used to think I might be able to match/fend off a 50-70 lb mountain lion if I had a knife, or perhaps a baseball bat. Then I saw a single lion take down a waterbuck... it was game over so quick, it was hard to describe. After slowly stalking the animal for 30 minutes, once the lion burst into action, it reached the waterbuck in maybe 2 seconds, and had it in a death grip within 5 seconds later. Even from 50 meters away, you could sense the ferocity through the lion's fur . The waterbuck was clearly a strong animal - and most likely even a little heavier than the lion - but it had no chance whatsoever.

Since witnessing that, I have no such confidence that I'd be able to fight off a determined 70 lb cat with a knife or bat. Maybe if I had a knife, I could deal a cut that would kill it, but I wouldn't be confident I'd necessarily come out alive. I'm not small, either - 175 lbs - but I don't think that would help me too much.

A 35 lb cat is about the threshold where I think I MIGHT have a chance to survive a fight unarmed. So for the runner in Colorado - to come out alive vs a 35-40 lb cat - I'm impressed.