Where would aliens really land?

Cottonshirt wrote:

What makes air so special that traveling through space in a giant tank of oxygen is any less weird?

well, for one thing, air is a lot lighter than water, so there's that.

which means you need way more fuel to fly 60 million kilometres in a tank of water.

and, your explanation of what these aquatic aliens built their spaceship out of, construction methods, design features, control technology, communication and so forth should all be highly amusing.

what kind of rocket motor is a fish going to make?

and what about the type of fuel they are using and how an aquatic animal extracted that fuel out of their planet and made a tank to store it in, and so forth... all while under water.

it's not really about breathing. it's about the very limited number of other things you can do in that environment.

cheers.

This truly is a moronic post lol

Lighter than air... in space?

You're asking me to give plans for an intergalactic space ship? Ha no one on earth can even come close to doing that for you man, regardless of if it is for gaseous beings or aquatic, so you can't exactly say one is plausible and the other isn't

You know plenty of our fuel comes from out of the oceans right?

Forget about it, they're not coming - they live thousands if not millions of light years away. If they had the superior intelligence to traverse the space/time continuum and knew we were here, they probably wouldn't waste their time....it would be like you interrupting your life to interact with a newly discovered species of ants.

Of course if there are other dimensions around us that we cannot experience, maybe they're already here and we can't sense them.

First, they would not land at all. Their first arrival would be an attack from the air to establish air superiority (the best move would be an EMP attack, as it would completely cripple humans ability to stage a counter offensive). Then they would land on the top of Mt. Everest or top of Mt Rainier, as it would give them the best location to broadcast their signals from and a staging point close to the worlds most densely populated regions to launch their attack. Additionally, they would have a ready supply of water there and pretty much no ability for humans to stage a ground attack as both areas are almost impossible to stage any real threat.

This truly is a moronic post lol

an apt description of your own contribution.

Lighter than air... in space?

that isn't what I said, either.

I said that air is lighter than water. when you've learned to read we can move on.

You're asking me to give plans for an intergalactic space ship?

no. that isn't what I said either. I'm asking you to consider how an aquatic animal can design and build an interglactic spaceship.

for humans to have evolved to the point where they could build things, the very first thing that had to happen was for an aquatic animal to come out of the water and walk on dry land. I'm quite comfortable with the idea that someone else can imagine how a fish can build a spaceship. I'm not saying they are wrong to do so. all I did was answer your question. the fact that you can neither read nor understand the answer doesn't make me a moron.

cheers.

There is no gravity in space lol, that was my point. Also, why would a gas-reliant animal be any more capable of designing a spaceship? There is no reason to believe a species just as intelligent as humans can't evolve under water. There are all kinds of hypothesized conditions that advanced civilizations could live in and yes, water is one of them.

Err pls explain why we are going around the Sun (or mutually circling each other) then.

Cottonshirt wrote:

What makes air so special that traveling through space in a giant tank of oxygen is any less weird?

well, for one thing, air is a lot lighter than water, so there's that.

which means you need way more fuel to fly 60 million kilometres in a tank of water.

and, your explanation of what these aquatic aliens built their spaceship out of, construction methods, design features, control technology, communication and so forth should all be highly amusing.

what kind of rocket motor is a fish going to make?

and what about the type of fuel they are using and how an aquatic animal extracted that fuel out of their planet and made a tank to store it in, and so forth... all while under water.

it's not really about breathing. it's about the very limited number of other things you can do in that environment.

cheers.

You're making the mistake of thinking of these creatures in our environment and using our infrastructure to construct their rocket. They are an intelligent species that has evolved for millions of years underwater. They don't even necessarily have the same elements as we do, so they have the ability to power their equipment in an aqueous environment.

Also once you are traveling through space the weight of your rocket matters very little. It will only be a noticeable difference getting out of their atmosphere and when they enter ours. They will also be traveling far more than 60 million km. That won't even get you to our sun.

I bet they land in northern Canada in the winter though and quickly decide our planet is uninhabitable and gtfo.

Are you sure about that? wrote:

ufo5 wrote:

There is no gravity in space lol, that was my point. Also, why would a gas-reliant animal be any more capable of designing a spaceship? There is no reason to believe a species just as intelligent as humans can't evolve under water. There are all kinds of hypothesized conditions that advanced civilizations could live in and yes, water is one of them.

Err pls explain why we are going around the Sun (or mutually circling each other) then.

Fair enough, you get what I mean though

Roswell NM

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3625277/Nine-months-after-the-Roswell-Incident-Al-Gore-was-born.-It-might-not-be-a-coincidence.html

Bird Expert wrote:

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Also once you are traveling through space the weight of your rocket matters very little. It will only be a noticeable difference getting out of their atmosphere and when they enter ours.

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The weight of the rocket is hugely important for interstellar travel. Any attempt to get here implies they have the ability to reach relativistic speeds. As you approach relativistic speeds your mass increases, so it takes more and more force to keep accelerating at the same rate. Starting with a very low initial mass will mitigate this effect and make higher speeds, and therefore further distances, possible.

We first landed on your moon to observe you from a distance. Then after collecting data for several decades, we felt it was time to get closer to you and the other inhabitants of your wonderful planet. We set up observation points underneath your oceans as well as in areas where we felt we would be less likely to be immediately detected. The deserts as well as the African jungle. We also set up locations deep underground in West Texas and Nevada. You will never recognise us as we have perfected our replication technology so we look exactly like you do. You are interesting to observe since you came so much later than we did. Unfortunately you will not last too much longer. We specifically picked this point in time to observe you at the peak of your reign. It will be even more interesting to observe you over the next 30 years until your extinction.

theJeff wrote:

Gravy wrote:

There is no chance that any being with the technological capacity to travel to our planet wouldn't destroy us.

Not sure I believe that. There may be new evidence for primitive life on Europa... we have the technology to travel there, but we aren't trying to Clorox the potential algae from the planet.

Looks like someone was also watching PBS NOVA recently. Cheers, bro!

At sea level and at around 70F, air is 784 times less dense than water. That is why a volume of water has more mass than the same volume of air.

At a temperature of 0 C and 4934 atmospheres of pressure air has the same density as water under ambient conditions. Air under special conditions has the same mass as water. The air humans breathe is about 21% oxygen and 78% nitrogen.

Humans wouldn't travel through space in a spacecraft saturated with oxygen. Refer to Apollo I regarding the lessons learned about having a spacecraft with an oxygen saturated atmosphere.

According to Douglas Adams humans are being observed by mice and dolphins.

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=air+at+5000+bar+and+0+degrees+C

Humans already live on a spacecraft. We are hurtling through space in orbit around the sun at 18.5 miles per second and the sun is orbiting around the center of the galaxy at 124 miles per second. It takes 240 million years to complete one galaxtic rotation. The Milky Way galaxy is estimated to be moving at 1.3 million miles per hour through the universe.

I am not sure it there is a way to measure how fast the universe is moving compared to other universes because we can't observe anything beyond our universe. Could this imply that the universe is moving at the speed of light?

http://solar-center.stanford.edu/FAQ/Qsolsysspeed.html

welll.....since there is no water on any other planet besides our home planet Earth, I find it highly unlikely that aliens would enjoy landing in water.

By the way, everyone on here would probably agree, you are an alien asking for a human's opinion on the best location to land and take over our home...I'm here to say, you'll have to pry it from my cold dead fingers.

The popular theory now is that they're in Antarctica. As far as landing sites, it is arguably the best, since it's easy to operate undetected.

What are they doing there? Not to get the ice, because there's other places with more of that. Probably the south pole is where they are exoforming the Earth to be more like their home planet so they can colonize it. First they destroyed the ozone, now they are altering the climate. Soon they will start to slow the rotation so it will become a hot jungle world for lizard people.

The aliens will land at Mar a Lago.

https://www.maralagoclub.com

You guys have no idea what you are talking about.

They already have landed here and have fully populated the state of Rhode Island. Visit us and you will see by the way they act that the only explanation is that they are aliens.

That's why I have been holding back the Panzers.