It's cool to see EPO cheats give public advice to other EPO cheats.
It's cool to see EPO cheats give public advice to other EPO cheats.
Cheserek is running fast indoor times. Great! Who gives a shiit. When he wins a Diamond League 1500, then lets start talking. During outdoor track is when the big boys come out to play. Ethiopians and Kenyans (training in Kenya) look at indoor track and laugh as they say "stupid Americans".
El Gee Wizz wrote:
Sure he can run 48 in the 400, but that's not 46. Ches isn't a Coe, Ovett, or Alan Webb. He also isn't an Asbel Kiprop, who purportedly has finished workouts in 47's on a dirt track. He's definitely no Tim Cheruiyot. He might be more of a Silas Kipligat.
What data do you have to back any of this up?
What did your "data" say Chez was capable of, say, a month ago? I'm gonna guess it didn't predict 3:49i.
In short, you have no idea what he is capable of or what you are blabbing about.
Men Don't Run Indoor Track wrote:
Cheserek is running fast indoor times. Great! Who gives a shiit. When he wins a Diamond League 1500, then lets start talking. During outdoor track is when the big boys come out to play. Ethiopians and Kenyans (training in Kenya) look at indoor track and laugh as they say "stupid Americans".
No.
Actually, they look at indoor track and say, "How did they get that track inside a building?"
El Gee Wizz wrote:
ex-runner wrote:
People such as myself are calling it odd not for its content, but for the fact that grammatically it is all over the place, and it brings in ideas seemingly randomly like a drunkard slurring his sentences.
That's a pretty easily scored point, considering that I remarked only a couple posts after the original post that I had a few beers. Whether or not that's true, you will never know, but have you ever considered that you might be an illiterate person of average intelligence, only capable of absorbing information if it's packed in the spoon-fed language and structure of an average seventh- grader? Keep in mind that our American seventh-graders aren't exactly competitive in testing on the world stage.
You are calling me illiterate after your post...?
I don't need information to be spoon fed but using sentences would be a nice start.
You aren't comparing historical milers as much as just name dropping and bringing in entirely unsubstantiated information from nowhere, randomly, at will.
rojo wrote:
People are calling the following post odd.
El Gee Wizz wrote:
In Morocco when El G ran, and more recently, the key to maximizing endurance was a little bit of the special sauce.
I say that King Cheddar wouldn't be running these times if he weren't already coming from a 5k and even 10k (at least collegiately) background. Sure he can run 48 in the 400, but that's not 46. Ches isn't a Coe, Ovett, or Alan Webb. He also isn't an Asbel Kiprop, who purportedly has finished workouts in 47's on a dirt track. He's definitely no Tim Cheruiyot. He might be more of a Silas Kipligat. He's no El G, either (maybe not even El G was an El G, if we are going on guilt by association).
By the way, I'm not oblivious to the fact that El G was just encouraging the young talent. I wonder if he'll start tweeting at young Kenyans that live in Iten. They all have internet and can get on twitter, too.
I 100% disagree. It's one of the best posts in the history of letsrun.com. From the first line to the last, it's full of info. Amazing.
Brilliant.
There is nothing odd about it. Basically, he's saying he thinks El G was on drugs which I would say is a very common belief among insiders. He's also getting at a point that John Kellogg makes all the time - Strength = Speed .Then he talks about how Ches isn't fast enough to be a truly elite 1500 guy.
Oh Please wrote:
If the greatest "miler" of all time had an opinion, you at least listen to it.
You don't listen if you think he was doped. Another thing John Kellogg always talks about is how doping totally screws up our view of what proper training should be and look like.
Rambling nonsense at best.
El G probably did dope but I'm not so sure that has anything to do with anything when your talking about Ches and his future.
Ches ran all the distances in college to score points, yes thats a fact.
His long term future may fall into longer distance races but now he's running the 1500 better than anyone else in the world. A focus on the 1500 is allowing him to find his true potential at the distance without having to chase collegiate points. On the right track he could break the indoor world mile record. Kellogg could not be more wrong on his assumption about Ches being an truly elite 1500 runner. Given he has only run one indoor season post collegiate I think he upside at the distance.
He will run faster outdoors which will by seasons end put him in the all time top 10 fastest 1500/mile times run.
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