"Cheserek, stick to the mile" El G tweets; I beg to differ.

Very odd post on multiple fronts

What's odd about it?

The epospecial sauce was the special sauce

Probably trying to secretly sabotage him so Ches doesn't take down his record.

a very odd post.

just a very, very odd post

YAWN . . . some random poster on LRC claims to know about running the 1500 than El G. . . . Crawl back into your mummy's basement, fool.

I thought he (ex-runner) was referring to El G's tweet, not the OP. Yes this topic is odd.

Very, very odd indeed

you're right, he's not webb, or coe, or ovett, or cheruiyot, or kipligat or even kiprop.

those guys never ran as fast indoors in the mile.

you're an idiot, and your post makes no clear point, just stream-of-consciousness nonsense. write it in an email and delete it when you're done next time instead of inflicting others with it.

cheers!

I made it halfway through the original post but all I could think of is how odd it was. Odd.

Okay, I've had three beers, maybe I'm not super-coherent. I wanted to get a reaction, looks like I already did. Let me spell my original post out:

1. El G says Ches needs to focus on 1500.

2. In Morocco, speed-type MD 1500 runners, which Ches is not, only seem to have run the times they did because they were on PEDs.

3. If El G says Ches needs to turn himself into a miler, he might be forgetting that we live in an era where EPO testing is a thing (not the case for most of his career).

4. Without a continued emphasis on longer-event-style training, Ches may not have the edge in the mile.

5. As a jab: El G is trying to become more relevant nowadays by tweeting at highly visible athletes. Will he start tweeting advice at other relevant athletes?

El Gee Wizz wrote:

Okay, I've had three beers, maybe I'm not super-coherent. I wanted to get a reaction, looks like I already did. Let me spell my original post out:

1. El G says Ches needs to focus on 1500.

2. In Morocco, speed-type MD 1500 runners, which Ches is not, only seem to have run the times they did because they were on PEDs.

3. If El G says Ches needs to turn himself into a miler, he might be forgetting that we live in an era where EPO testing is a thing (not the case for most of his career).

4. Without a continued emphasis on longer-event-style training, Ches may not have the edge in the mile.

5. As a jab: El G is trying to become more relevant nowadays by tweeting at highly visible athletes. Will he start tweeting advice at other relevant athletes?

That is a great idea:

I love the tweets with advice from Paula Pantani on autologous blood transfusions and using EPO at altitude in Kenya.

El Gee Wizz wrote:

As a jab: El G is trying to become more relevant nowadays by tweeting at highly visible athletes. Will he start tweeting advice at other relevant athletes?

He lived in Eugene and PDX so he probably knows Ches

Hardloper wrote:

El Gee Wizz wrote:

As a jab: El G is trying to become more relevant nowadays by tweeting at highly visible athletes. Will he start tweeting advice at other relevant athletes?

He lived in Eugene and PDX so he probably knows Ches

I'm not sure that he has lived in the Northwest within the last 4 or 5 years, but either way, I think that intelligent managers, especially those not beholden to Nike, know that there's a high potential of killing careers by becoming too friendly with pros with a certain number of questionable connections. Aden for example. Salazar for example. Lance Armstrong for example. Anyone from Morocco, for example. A quick google search on El G shows that he's attempting to become some kind of ambassador for the sport in Arabic countries (apparently they structure their programs similarly. I don't know why individual countries shouldn't have their own setups...) El G looks like he is turning into a beautiful person. Maybe he'll tweet at some other upcoming milers who don't have big dollars and visibility behind them.

I get your point though some of what you mention is not true. Ronald Kwemoi was/is the best 1500m/miler rising star in 2017. Why didn't he give him that kind of advice? And indeed Kwemoi had Kwemoi stuck with 1500m/mile and an occasional 5K in 2017, he would be the world champion and possibly would have broken the world record. Between him and Cheserek, he is the most dangerous to destroy El G's records.

About King Cheese, you do not need to run 400 in 46 to be a great miler. Daniel Komen had a slower 400 than Cheeserek yet he ran 3'46 and 3'29 for 1500. In my opinion Cheserek should keep it between 1500m and 5K just like Komen. He will be unbeatable especially in the 3K and 5K even with the likes of Solomon Berega and others. Then he can move up later to the 10K and then onto the roads.

Hardloper wrote:

I thought he (ex-runner) was referring to El G's tweet, not the OP. Yes this topic is odd.

Very, very odd indeed

You are very, very odd too and we still tolerate your posts. Even the very, very odd ones.

His body reminds me of Bekele honestly. but his race tactics remind me of a more explosive Mo Farah

The question is what is Chez' best distance? We've seen in his few losses while in college that he doesn't have the speed to kick with good 800m types. So his best distance isn't the 800m. El G says it's the 1500m/mile. I think he's probably going to end up a 1500m/5000m guy who can run world class 1500m times but whose combination of strength and speed plays out better in a tactical 5000m than in a tactical 1500m.

And yet Cheserek ran the second fastest mile time indoor. None of the other people you are comparing him to managed that. So I don't really care about speculative 400m times.

If the greatest "miler" of all time had an opinion, you at least listen to it.

People are calling the following post odd.

I 100% disagree. It's one of the best posts in the history of letsrun.com. From the first line to the last, it's full of info. Amazing.

Brilliant.

There is nothing odd about it. Basically, he's saying he thinks El G was on drugs which I would say is a very common belief among insiders. He's also getting at a point that John Kellogg makes all the time - Strength = Speed .Then he talks about how Ches isn't fast enough to be a truly elite 1500 guy.

You don't listen if you think he was doped. Another thing John Kellogg always talks about is how doping totally screws up our view of what proper training should be and look like.