New Star Caroline Chepkoech Kipkirui 66:53 Half Marathon, pacing

LOL my 1500 PR is three seconds faster than hers but my half marathon is nine minutes slower. EPO is a helluva drug, apparently!

Douglas Burke, I noticed that too! In fact I was going to post this. Caroline who happens to be Mercy Cherono's younger sister has not raced at any distance above 10K and has been "average" talent. I have no idea where you got her marathon time of 2:31 unless she ran that quietly at altitude. But her pacing job in London has catapulted her as a new half marathon talent. In fact her running form reminded me of the new half marathon record holder(Joyceline Jepkosgei)! There is a possibility she has been training with Keitany on and off since they ran neck and neck in one of the races in the US last year with Keitany finishing just 2 or 3 seconds ahead of Caroline(can't remember what race it was).

Jama Mama wrote:

LOL my 1500 PR is three seconds faster than hers but my half marathon is nine minutes slower. EPO is a helluva drug, apparently!

...or, she has better endurance than you...or, you're lazy. Sure, it sucks that a chick is faster than you; but it doesn't mean she's on drugs. It means you're WEAK.

Jama Mama wrote:

LOL my 1500 PR is three seconds faster than hers but my half marathon is nine minutes slower. EPO is a helluva drug, apparently!

Caroline's 1500m time most likely came from altitude and must be at least 4 years old. Her current best in the distance if she chose to run is better, maybe 4:15 or faster. That said, she is not a 1500m runner but her focus has been on 3000m - 5000m where her sister has done well. But the way it looks now her focus will have to shift to half marathons. As for your 1500m - half marathon time compared to her times, the difference is in that she is a professional full time athlete while you are not. Focusing your life on just training daily and racing produces times that are mind-boggling to an average hobby jogger like you!

I got her Marathon time and all her times from Tilastopaja under Caroline Kipkirui (Her Middle Name is Chepkoech, which is what the broadcasters used as her last name).

She ran the 2:31 Marathon in Kisumu in December 2012.

douglas burke wrote:

She ran the 2:31 Marathon in Kisumu in December 2012.

Just checked that too. However it is highly possible that there is a mixup in names and that the person who ran 2:31 is actually someone else. 2:31 at altitude is worth somewhere in 2:24 -2:26 region(maybe faster) and the fact that it is indicated that she ran it in 2012( she was only 18) she would be running marathons now if indeed she had run that time. The person who ran 2:31 I suspect is Caroline Cheptanui but the names got mixed up.

Mercy Koech wrote:

Jama Mama wrote:

LOL my 1500 PR is three seconds faster than hers but my half marathon is nine minutes slower. EPO is a helluva drug, apparently!

Caroline's 1500m time most likely came from altitude and must be at least 4 years old. Her current best in the distance if she chose to run is better, maybe 4:15 or faster. That said, she is not a 1500m runner but her focus has been on 3000m - 5000m where her sister has done well. But the way it looks now her focus will have to shift to half marathons. As for your 1500m - half marathon time compared to her times, the difference is in that she is a professional full time athlete while you are not. Focusing your life on just training daily and racing produces times that are mind-boggling to an average hobby jogger like you!

Off 4:15 it would still be odd to be able to run sub 68. That's a 4:34 mile what was her fastest mile splits in London?

ukathleticscoach wrote:

Mercy Koech wrote:

Caroline's 1500m time most likely came from altitude and must be at least 4 years old. Her current best in the distance if she chose to run is better, maybe 4:15 or faster. That said, she is not a 1500m runner but her focus has been on 3000m - 5000m where her sister has done well. But the way it looks now her focus will have to shift to half marathons. As for your 1500m - half marathon time compared to her times, the difference is in that she is a professional full time athlete while you are not. Focusing your life on just training daily and racing produces times that are mind-boggling to an average hobby jogger like you!

Off 4:15 it would still be odd to be able to run sub 68. That's a 4:34 mile what was her fastest mile splits in London?

4:37 3rd mile. Not a chance in hell she can't beat 4:10 for 1500m. But what's the point in running a 4:09 1500m and taking 7th place in some random European B meet when you have the ability to run sub-67 for the half marathon and can pick up big money pacing & racing on the roads?

Jama Mama wrote:

LOL my 1500 PR is three seconds faster than hers but my half marathon is nine minutes slower. EPO is a helluva drug, apparently!

It made you really slow at half marathon.

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Jama Mama wrote:

LOL my 1500 PR is three seconds faster than hers but my half marathon is nine minutes slower. EPO is a helluva drug, apparently!

It made you really slow at half marathon.

My 1500 is worth 752 points on the IAAF tables, my HM is 736, so within 30 seconds of the expected. Not nine minutes which is available on the streets of Iten.

Unfortunately the circumstances surrounding this lady are quite dubious. She went to the US and did quite well in some road races, but during that time also connected with a Kenyan man who wasn't having so much success of his own as an athlete. He seems to see her as an ATM, and has declared himself to be her coach and decision maker. This is the textbook example of what has happened with virtually all Kenyan women busted for doping. The two of them also quickly earned a reputation for not being trustworthy in their dealings with people in the sport in the US.

Jack Pearson wrote:

Unfortunately the circumstances surrounding this lady are quite dubious. She went to the US and did quite well in some road races, but during that time also connected with a Kenyan man who wasn't having so much success of his own as an athlete. He seems to see her as an ATM, and has declared himself to be her coach and decision maker. This is the textbook example of what has happened with virtually all Kenyan women busted for doping. The two of them also quickly earned a reputation for not being trustworthy in their dealings with people in the sport in the US.

Name the Kenyan man. The running world needs to know him so not to deal with him anymore or even report him to authorities. I believe you are using a pseudo name so no fear of your identity being revealed which could result in some repercussions.

She won the 2016 Falmouth Road Race.

Mercy Koech wrote:

douglas burke wrote:

She ran the 2:31 Marathon in Kisumu in December 2012.

Just checked that too. However it is highly possible that there is a mixup in names and that the person who ran 2:31 is actually someone else. 2:31 at altitude is worth somewhere in 2:24 -2:26 region(maybe faster) and the fact that it is indicated that she ran it in 2012( she was only 18) she would be running marathons now if indeed she had run that time. The person who ran 2:31 I suspect is Caroline Cheptanui but the names got mixed up.

I dont think she is Mercy Koech's sister.

Jama Mama wrote:

My 1500 is worth 752 points on the IAAF tables, my HM is 736, so within 30 seconds of the expected. Not nine minutes which is available on the streets of Iten.

because you really suck.

douglas burke wrote:

http://www.nation.co.ke/sports/athletics/Late-call-earns-Caroline-Chepkoech-star-status/1100-3903846-a1aw81z/index.html

Thanks

She Won the Great Birmingham run today in 30:45 this is 1 week after pacing Keitany to a 2:17.01 London Marathon victory, apparently the pacing last week did not take it out of her, a quick recovery.