Curious to know whose horses are taking 10lb shits in the middle of the South Boulder Creek Trail in Boulder, CO?

Horses are allowed on South Boulder Creek Trail-

https://bouldercolorado.gov/osmp/riding-your-horse-on-osmp

https://www-static.bouldercolorado.gov/docs/HorseRegs_11x17_Public_2sided-1-201607081239.pdf

There's no rule about picking up after your horse, but you do have to pick up after your dog-

https://bouldercolorado.gov/osmp/dogs-on-osmp

https://bouldercolorado.gov/osmp/leave-no-trace

In defense of OP, there's a pretty glaring inconsistency in the park system's "Leave No Trace" philosophy.

Big jar of medicine wrote:

We must regulate and tax poopies and outlaw horses. Who's with me?!

We must build a wall between horses and humans.

Yeah, I have to agree with most of this.

I live near Banff National Park and many of the front range trails have become almost unusable due to horse traffic. Back-country trails are single-track and horses have caused so much erosion that the ruts are consistently more than a foot deep in many areas and full of mud, horse-sh*t and water.

Any time it rains, all of the sh*t washes down the trails, as there is no vegetation to hold it back, and into the nearest stream, contaminating the water supply that hikers rely on.

I read a recent trip report of somebody who hiked the North Boundary Trail and he said that most of the campsites along the trail were so covered in rain-soaked horse manure that he couldn't find anywhere suitable within the camping area to set up his tent without placing it in soggy feces. How hard would it have been for the outfitter to keep the horses away from the camping spots?

Perhaps cowboys enjoy the smell of horse manure but I, and many others do not, nor do I enjoy getting it all over my hiking boots (and pants, from hiking through muddy, eroded trails and then tracking it into my car.

This wouldn't be such an issue if it were just a small number of solitary horseback riders using the trails but, when it's an outfitter, who's accepting money to take 20-30 horses and their paying customers on a back-country trip, they should have one guide to lead the way and one person bringing up the rear with a shovel to at least shovel the crap off the trail.

Howdy from your Wyoming neighbor,

I am wondering who is going to clean up the shit that is the Front Range of Colorado?

You wanted your P.F. Changs and your Centerra Shopping Centers but don't want to deal with the problems of an overpopulated area?

You reap what you sow, you greenies.

Wyomingite wrote:

Howdy from your Wyoming neighbor,

I am wondering who is going to clean up the shit that is the Front Range of Colorado?

You wanted your P.F. Changs and your Centerra Shopping Centers but don't want to deal with the problems of an overpopulated area?

You reap what you sow, you greenies.

You're talking about Denver and its suburbs. Boulder is in its own bubble of crazy, but nothing like the trash around it.

topcat wrote:

Perhaps you should start a petition to require horse diapers like NYC.

Sorry about that.

I used to have my horses walk on a treadmill at the Y.

They threw me out and wouldn't tell me why. I asked for a specific reason and they just kept yelling "You can't ride a horse on our treadmills!". He did take a 10 lb dump at the Y, but that was in the hall by the reception desk, not on the treadmill, so that can't be the reason we're not allowed.

If a horse takes a dump while on a treadmill, will the plane take off?

Apulia Station wrote:

If a horse takes a dump while on a treadmill, will the plane take off?

Depends. Was the horse wearing spikes?

If your horse poops on your treadmill, make sure to spritz the treadmill with water and wipe it down with a towel.

This happens where I live too, only its on the road not trail. I go run at Yorktown battlefield about once a week or so. It's entirely paved roads and horses are allowed. Same situation as op's trail but the horses crap on the road and it just sits there a long time.

That wasn't a horse - that was me. Forgot my compression sock. Sorry.

Dogs- eat a diet that is meat based or corn/meta.

Humans- eat a diet heavy with meat (usually.

The meat does not decompose the same way, and it attract vermin.

Horses- eat an all grain diet...

decomposes swiftly- DOES NOT attract vermin.

Read a freakin' science book.

Just put it in a compression sock.

reallys wrote:

Don't worry. Musk is working on a solar powered horse.

A horse eats grass, it's already solar powered.

Actually, there will be a contest coming very soon in Boulder. Who can shut down joggers from using the creek trail. The horse who can poop without taking a break for7'X6'....long enough for joggers to be so disgusted they will stop running, wins.

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We're all solar powered wrote:

reallys wrote:

Don't worry. Musk is working on a solar powered horse.

A horse eats grass, it's already solar powered.

Boulder horses eatin' weed now that its legal? Far out, man.

Its Mark Wetmore's stable of fillies.

Richard Harris (call me Horse) wrote:

equine industrial complex wrote:

A parks person too weak to stand up to the horse lobby? Not surprising.

Dogs: gotta pick up their crap

People: Gotta bury it or pack it out, and even then crapping on the trail might be considered not great

Horses/horse people: Make none of their own trails, try to co opt everyone else's trails, erode the hell out of the trails, complain to the ranger if any runner was anywhere near them on the trails, and crap all over the trails with abandon

Seems consistent to someone I'm sure!

Dogs- eat a diet that is meat based or corn/meta.

Humans- eat a diet heavy with meat (usually.

The meat does not decompose the same way, and it attract vermin.

Horses- eat an all grain diet...

decomposes swiftly- DOES NOT attract vermin.

Read a freakin' science book.

Scientist here, and I studied herbivore ecology and nutrition in grad school. Knew the scoop on poop.

There are some health risks associated with horse manure but you more or less have to be in contact with it, like cleaning stalls or something. Walking by on a bike path isn't going to be an issue. Indeed though human and dog feces is more likely to carry harmful parasites or bacteria, or other compounds that can cause disease or illness.

Horses eat about 30 lb of food a day. I saw one website that indicated 6-8/ lb/poop, and 6X a day on average, up to 50 lb. Not sure about that. But if you figure that the crap is probably 70% water, probably in the right ball park.