What D1 team has excellent academics but a bad team?

just another guy wrote:

Virginia Tech is the national leader in academics and is, at best, so so athletically. Virginia Tech is often reefered to as the ivy of the south.

Literally no one calls Virgina Tech "the Ivy of the South"

it's not a bad school, but what?

TheRealCJ wrote:

Vanderbilt. Primarily because they don't reward athletic scholarships for guys and don't have men's track.

Thanks a lot, Title IX.

Vanderbilt had (still has?) a very good women's team just recently

jokes wrote:

Fact checker wrote:

Purdue and Georgia Tech are not private schools. They are typical state schools with crap distance teams.

Matt McClintock?

Purdue may finish in the lower half of the big ten but they are still better than a lot of teams. They also usually have one or two emerging names dating back to when Donnie Fellows was on the team. But for every forty 4:20 or better runners that go in, you might get one that performs at a top tier level that has the chance to make a national meet.

I got to VT ans this is not an "ivy of the south" top 20 engineering school and top 5 architecture program but nothing amazing for other departments besides agriculture but its agriculture so I dont count it. Best southern schools overall are UVA, william and mary, UNC, Duke, Georgia tech

Purdue is excellent academically in the STEM fields. Pretty good business/management school also. They placed top 20 at NCAA's indoors and out and both the men's and women's cross country teams were recieving votes in the national polls this year... They may not be national title contenders but they're still in the top 50 D1 distance schools. Georgia Tech is very similar academically. They have their struggles in the distances but have still produced some top level talent recently (Laseter)

Tablet viewer wrote:

jokes wrote:

Matt McClintock?

Purdue may finish in the lower half of the big ten but they are still better than a lot of teams. They also usually have one or two emerging names dating back to when Donnie Fellows was on the team. But for every forty 4:20 or better runners that go in, you might get one that performs at a top tier level that has the chance to make a national meet.

Well, it's not a BAD team, but not a great one either -- Davidson. Some other schools in the Atlantic 10 conference would qualify too. Davidson though is a GREAT school.

Flagpole wrote:

Well, it's not a BAD team, but not a great one either -- Davidson. Some other schools in the Atlantic 10 conference would qualify too. Davidson though is a GREAT school.

Davidson is considerably smaller than any of the other schools in its conference (by at least 10,000) and still are top contenders in XC (3rd this year). Because of the size difference, they won't appear as strong in team track competition as some other multi-10,000-enrolled powerhouses like George Mason, VCU, URI, UMass. Also, consider that they switched conferences 2 years ago from SoCon to A-10 and are still one of the top distance programs.

pat league wrote:

coach d wrote:

I think the folks at UF and Georgia Tech would dispute the best university part, as would Emory, Tulane, and Texas/Rice/TAMU if you extend Mason Dixon out that far.

South of the Mason Dixon? Not even close.

Duke, UNC Chapel Hill, & University of Virginia are probably the best. Then Vanderbilt, Wake Forest, and Davidson.

Agree with Duke on the academic side, but their men's program isn't fully funded, so doesn't count as far as the OP's requirements.

Change @ Park wrote:

miami fo sho wrote:

Easily Miami. Best University south of the mason Dixon and a god-awful xc team

...their men's & women's teams are pitiful.

The men's team is bad (not fully funded) The women's team is very good, they won the ACC Indoor team title this year.

Surprised nobody mentioned Berkeley. Top 3 Engineering programs in the country, ranked #1 public university in the world, and not a great team

............ wrote:

Surprised nobody mentioned Berkeley. Top 3 Engineering programs in the country, ranked #1 public university in the world, and not a great team

You're still going to need somewhere along the lines of 1:53/4:14/9:15 to get recruited at Cal. They've picked up a lot of the top SoCal talent in the last few years, it's just that they haven't really done much with it.

Also if you're not wicked smart Cal will eat you alive. Most competitive engineering programs in the country, huge lecture sections (upwards of 500 kids), and a crazy cutthroat environment is rough on some people.

Although if you go, run for a year then quit and get through CS with >3.5, you're looking at a 100k starting salary in Silicon Valley. It'll barely be enough for you to pay rent in Palo Alto, but at least you'll be able to tell people how much money you're making!

Maybe great at engineering? Lets try fantastic engineering, Ag, and business. Get a clue.

Often reefered to means referred to by potheads?

just another guy wrote:

Virginia Tech is the national leader in academics and is, at best, so so athletically. Virginia Tech is often reefered to as the ivy of the south.

Ummm Duke? Carolina? Emory? UVA? Miami is fine but there are plenty of schools much better, even in the south

Yeah but they said that Miami was the best university in the south, verbatim...not the best university with a fully funded team in the south

very few of the schools mentioned on this thread have "excellent academics"... Colgate? Holy Cross? Virginia Tech? Not to be harsh but these are pretty average D1 schools...

Cal is the only one that comes to mind, but their xc team isn't horrible

Loyola Chicago is dog shit in track.

student life '16 wrote:

very few of the schools mentioned on this thread have "excellent academics"... Colgate? Holy Cross? Virginia Tech? Not to be harsh but these are pretty average D1 schools...

Cal is the only one that comes to mind, but their xc team isn't horrible

That's a pretty fine distinction, especially for Colgate

Stanford a top 2 recruiting class every single year yet never sniff the top 10 indoors or outdoors. Stanford ruins more good runners then maybe every team in the Country combined.