Lagat's Training, What has allowed his Longevity?

-- no, we were defending socal cush. It is very odd the "cush" attacks Lagat for maintaining speed over the years --it must be drugs--, yet cush has set master's records and maintained his speed better --just healthy life style. Sure, okay.

It's not training you idiots. It's genetics.

"no, we were defending socal cush."

No what? What are you saying no to?

I couldn't care less regarding the truth of what this person says, or what people you think are him say. I was merely answering the person's question as to why he was being called socal cush.

Now is this the part where you call me Ventolin, and accuse socal cush and ventolin of being the same person?

You're making stuff up. Go take a nap.

you know you've made it when people accuse you of using multiple handles on letsrun. oh boy.

for the record:

1) this is my first post on this thread, though some won't believe it. rave on.

2) yes i'm suspicious about lagat. it's an opinion. it's so easy.

3) even with my suspicions, he's a remarkable athlete. and by all accounts, a nice dude, for what it's worth. i actually agree with much of madmandoc's first response, though i agree with a couple of responses that followed as well. well all right.

4) i've definitely lost more than lagat (who remarkably got faster into his late 30s). if i run another 3:55/56 for 1500m post 45, i'm likely on something (though i do hope to run sub-4 again for 1500m). that'll be the day.

5) it does appear that my unratified, and largely ignored age group record (outside of my family, friends and a scant few of my age group competitors), will remain both unratified and unbroken. crying, waiting, hoping.

words of love,

the real socal cush

madmandoc wrote:

I have a few ideas. First it is probably more him than the training. Some runners are just more resistant to injury than others. If it is true he never goes past 16 miles then that is quite unusual and may have much to do with it. I have also read he takes 6 weeks off in a row every year. During this time he does not run at all and does not do any other kind of training. That might be a big factor. Lastly, he has run mostly 1500m-5k and not longer races. Personally I have noticed that I get injury problems after races in the 10 mile and longer range. I think that when the fatigue gets bad, you start accumulating injury as your body makes subtle changes to compensate fo fatigue. Perhaps this results in more injury risk if the race is longer.

6 weeks off a year? Isn't that a normal steroid cycle?

blake white wrote:

lagat needs to be deported and never let back into the united states. he cant speak English, he is not a product of here, he is a trador and a terrorist who has stolen Olympic glory from real Americans like anal webb. he doesn't belong here and nobody wants him here. he has already competed for the enemy in the Olympics and now he is pretending to be one of us. he will never be one of us. he is a disgusting international criminal who needs to be deported and charged with treason, illegal alienship, and racketeering

Ok Trump.

He didn't really get faster. He moved up in distance because he couldn't run as fast.

Your unratified and largely ignored age group record is a long way of the world best time, set by a runner who was nearly 47. I told you this before when you were doing multiple posts on one thread telling us how wonderful you were.

He peaked at 5000m about five years ago. Ran his fastest 1500m fifteen years ago and hasn't broken 3:30 in over ten years.

Remember when? wrote:

http://www.letsrun.com/2003/lagatepo.php

YAWN ... the faked test sample. Someone forgot to tell the person who tampered with the test to contaminate both the A and B sample.

Still waiting for "real" failed test results for Lagat. Thirteen years later and nothing. There should be hundreds of failed tests. Where are they?

If you have an unratified record it doesn't "exist," but the time you set for age 45 group is still the mark to beat. It doesn't look like Lagat will have "it" at the same age. Your unratified mark might still be the fastest.

Bogus test wrote:

Remember when? wrote:http://www.letsrun.com/2003/lagatepo.php

YAWN ... the faked test sample. Someone forgot to tell the person who tampered with the test to contaminate both the A and B sample.

Still waiting for "real" failed test results for Lagat. Thirteen years later and nothing. There should be hundreds of failed tests. Where are they?

Perhaps he fails them all the time, but the results are explained away? You know, sick, dehydrated, altitude training, and etc.

Don't forget, just 2 and half years ago Lagat ran 12:58 in Brussels only loosing to Alimerew

Bogus test wrote:

Remember when? wrote:http://www.letsrun.com/2003/lagatepo.php

YAWN ... the faked test sample. Someone forgot to tell the person who tampered with the test to contaminate both the A and B sample.

Martial Saugy(the alleged fixer) also happened to be the IAAF expert present when the B sample was thrown out

NOP Skeptic wrote:

Don't forget, just 2 and half years ago Lagat ran 12:58 in Brussels only loosing to Alimerew

Lagat had 12:40 ability in his prime, he just didn't run the event.

fifa wrote:

Bogus test wrote:

YAWN ... the faked test sample. Someone forgot to tell the person who tampered with the test to contaminate both the A and B sample.

Martial Saugy(the alleged fixer) also happened to be the IAAF expert present when the B sample was thrown out

Because the A sample was clean. Provide a link to a real positive test with both A and B sample confirming use of PEDs.

fifa wrote:

Martial Saugy (the alleged fixer) also happened to be the IAAF expert present when the B sample was thrown out

LOL ... Martial Saugy is Chief Quality Officer of bei ch-aviation (http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/about). Couldn't get a job in drug testing again. He had to switch to the aircraft industry.