I believe I found something even worse than doping... Must see.

no different from illeagal track in monaco and new beijing track

"Illeagal" is an obvious typo. It should be two words - ill eagle. This of course is a bird too diseased to fly; hence, it is confined to running on a track.

If a lap of the track was shorter than 400 meters, as seems to be the implication since cheating is the issue, all of the birds in any race on that track would of course gain a time advantage over all of the birds who were running on other tracks but would have no such advantage over the birds they were directly racing against.

The case of mechanical doping is different, since one competitor has an advantage over all the others in the same race.

Coebra wrote:

The rest of us are trying to watch people with real drive, passion, and honesty

then go back and live in the 1800s and witness slow times, and attribute all success to god.

like the other poster, the sole fact that an athlete is willing to take advantage of all supplements available on the market, even potentially harmful to him long term, the sole fact that he is willing to take that kind of risk in order to win the race, puts him on a much higher level of respect in my book. I will never respect a slow runner just because they are old fashioned or humble or honest. I respect the person who uses science and technology and performance enhancers to make him better. why? because that proves his passion to be the best in the world.

im sure you are also one of these "everyone should get a medal" characters?

Lol

much much much much much much much much worse than PEDs

Alex... wrote:

Nothing better than a girl on a motorcycle.

funny

and youre damn right

There was speculation that Cancellara was using something like that during Paris-Roubaix maybe 5 years ago. Just rode away from everyone late in the race, seated.

Clerk wrote:

Video of motor in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv3CiyrRTMg

That video proves nothing. It has to have power and torque. It is easy to spin the wheel and gears without a load on the bike. That bike is off the ground with no load.

How much power do they have?

What powers these motors? Wouldn't they need a huge heavy battery?

I saw this, but it is all speculation, right?

When asked "'is this your bike" she is said to have waffled before answering..

Motorized doping is old news jeff. There is a nice video of Ryder Hesjedal crashing and his bike pedals itself in a circle on the ground before he can find the off switch.

My aunty will be over the moon with this. She was feeling guilty, you see, because of her e-bike.

motorized bicycle? wrote:

Clerk wrote:

Video of motor in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv3CiyrRTMg

That video proves nothing. It has to have power and torque. It is easy to spin the wheel and gears without a load on the bike. That bike is off the ground with no load.

How much power do they have?

What powers these motors? Wouldn't they need a huge heavy battery?

I saw this, but it is all speculation, right?

http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/07/news/froome-driven-to-distraction-by-motor-bike-claims_378474

All speculation? They found a motor in her bike. This isn't a "never tested positive" scenario; they found a motor in her bike.

That's a video of her accelerating away, up a cobbled climb with no change in position, or visible effort. It doesn't need to be evidence for a motor, they found one in her bike. All it is, is a demonstration of its use.

You are all haters...

Don't you understand the amount of commitment that goes into making a motorcycle? And it is enviroment-friendly too.

trackstar405. wrote:

the jeff,

you are against people taking vitamins, you are against immigration, you think children should be beaten and spanked, you are by far the stupidest person in the history of this board. and that's saying a lot.

Vitamins? huh?

Beaten? No. Spanked? Absolutely.

Legal immigration is fantastic.

Not that I am super worried about what a troll with no registered user name and who cannot capitalize a sentence thinks...

PS- I bet you look great on YOUR MoPed.

The Waffling Belgian wrote:

When asked "'is this your bike" she is said to have waffled before answering..

Motorized doping is old news jeff. There is a nice video of Ryder Hesjedal crashing and his bike pedals itself in a circle on the ground before he can find the off switch.

ZOLDER, Belgium (VN) — In what appears to be a first in cycling, the International Cycling Union confirmed that it had impounded the bike of Belgian rider Femke van den Driessche following the women’s under-23 championship race Saturday.

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My bad.

What kind of vitamins will mess up my health?

Clerk wrote:

motorized bicycle? wrote:

That video proves nothing. It has to have power and torque. It is easy to spin the wheel and gears without a load on the bike. That bike is off the ground with no load.

How much power do they have?

What powers these motors? Wouldn't they need a huge heavy battery?

I saw this, but it is all speculation, right?

http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/07/news/froome-driven-to-distraction-by-motor-bike-claims_378474

All speculation? They found a motor in her bike. This isn't a "never tested positive" scenario; they found a motor in her bike.

That's a video of her accelerating away, up a cobbled climb with no change in position, or visible effort. It doesn't need to be evidence for a motor, they found one in her bike. All it is, is a demonstration of its use.

When I said, the video proves nothing, I meant that first one in the quote above with the wheels turning. There's no load on the bike wheels.

Speculation? I meant speculation that they are being used in the tour de France. AFAIK, no one on the tour has been found with one. Obviously, they are being used in cyclo-cross with that finding.

I've never ridden one of these bikes. Is it something you can use buy at the local LBS? For commuting? I just find it hard to believe you could put a motor in there, which would make a difference.

Could you post the video of her speeding away? This topic is fascinating. I used to race Cat3.

Got it. Quoting me gives the impression you were responding to me. The link I posted is the video I mention.

On one hand, I DO kinda want to see the limits of human performance, all doped and 'roided up, just so we will have a better chance of surviving when the aliens (zombies?) finally come for us... I want to see it in the same way that I used to want to see the Ultimate Warrior press slam Hulk Hogan thru the center of the ring...

But, that doesn't explain why you feel to be a complete suppository about the whole thing...

Wonderful! You should be proud to be married to a real woman.